MilitaryHarbor - Top
Display your banner here
Results 1 to 10 of 10

SNCO "Der Spiess" tunic

Article about: Good afternoon chaps I have a really stupid question, but it is one that has stumped me for some time. We all know an aspiring officer candidate would often be a SNCO and denoted his "w

  1. #1

    Default SNCO "Der Spiess" tunic

    Good afternoon chaps
    I have a really stupid question, but it is one that has stumped me for some time. We all know an aspiring officer candidate would often be a SNCO and denoted his "worthyness" by having the 2 strips of tress sewn to each arm --BUT

    Would it be possible for a SNCO lets say an Oberfeldwebel.......... to have NO tress sewn to the collar and no tress sewn to the arms- also denoting an officer candidate? I read somewhere this is a possible combination

    I'm hoping someone with the regs can answer this question for me.
    Thanks in advance

  2. # ADS
    Circuit advertisement SNCO "Der Spiess" tunic
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    P
    Many
     

  3. #2

    Default

    No one? 85 hits and nothing

  4. #3

    Default

    no one?

  5. #4

    Default

    200 odd views and no comments?

  6. #5

    Default

    The Spiess is not an officer candidate...In the US Army, he's a "First Sergeant"...

  7. #6
    TWS
    TWS is offline
    ?

    Default

    The twin rings of Tresse sewn to the sleeves of a Hauptfeldwebel denote his duty position as Kompaniefeldwebel or "Spiess" as the nickname went. Equivalent to company First Sergeant as Glenn pointed ouit. There was even a nickname for the twin rings of Tresse - "Kolbenringe" or piston rings. On the parade dress Waffenrock, a Spiess was denoted by one single band of wide Tresse.

    An officer candidate wore a double row of Tresse on the shoulder straps, not the sleeves.
    Todd
    Former U.S. Army Tanker.
    "Best job I ever had."

  8. #7
    TWS
    TWS is offline
    ?

    Default

    Various Spiess tunics from my collection showing an HBT field tunic, a piped walking out, and a parade Waffenrock.

    Office candidate shoulder straps are the pair on the far right in the riker mount.

    SNCO "Der Spiess" tunicSNCO "Der Spiess" tunicSNCO "Der Spiess" tunicSNCO "Der Spiess" tunicSNCO "Der Spiess" tunicSNCO "Der Spiess" tunic
    Todd
    Former U.S. Army Tanker.
    "Best job I ever had."

  9. #8

    Default

    Thanks. But referring to my question. Must an SNCO have tress sewn around the collar?

  10. #9
    TWS
    TWS is offline
    ?

    Default

    Quote by oberhaig View Post
    Thanks. But referring to my question. Must an SNCO have tress sewn around the collar?
    Your question in the original post was a bit unclear and going in a couple different directions. That's probably why you didn't receive replies and when Glenn and I replied, it didn't hit on what you wanted to know due to the vagueness of your post.

    Specifically, about collar Tresse: Yes. Heer NCO's, per regulation, were supposed to have collar Tresse. That having been said, there was a war going on. Period photos exist of NCO's having their rank denoted only by their shoulder straps and lacking Tresse around the collar. Typically, these photos are from areas at or near the Front and reflect a lack of materials or time to apply collar Tresse to a tunic that was likely very recently issued to the NCO at the Front. An exception is M44 tunics. Those no longer required collar Tresse for NCO's, although some NCO's took it upon themselves to apply it. As far as earlier tunics, the catch-all applies: for every regulation, there is an exception.
    Todd
    Former U.S. Army Tanker.
    "Best job I ever had."

  11. #10

    Default

    Thank you. That clears it up perfectly...... as the saying goes......don't tell me they wouldn't have done that 👍

Similar Threads

  1. 12-17-2019, 09:08 PM
  2. 02-25-2015, 08:10 PM
  3. Need Help! Another Wz.36 Polish Army Captain's tailor made Field ? Tunic, claimed to have belonged to "Chrabąszcz" Komendant Kpt. Kazimierz Blajer ps. "Kanis"

    In Polish Armed Forces - Second Republic (Siły Zbrojne II Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej) 1918-1939
    02-05-2015, 12:07 AM
  4. Need Help! Wz.36 Polish Army Captain's tailor made Field Tunic, claimed to have belonged to "Chrabąszcz" Komendant Kpt. Kazimierz Blajer ps. "Kanis"

    In Polish Armed Forces - Second Republic (Siły Zbrojne II Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej) 1918-1939
    07-07-2014, 06:42 PM
  5. 02-26-2014, 03:00 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Militaria-Reisig & Antiquitäten - Down
Display your banner here