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US M1 Schlueter/westinghouse liner/front seam/swivel bales with heat stamp 80A

Article about: Hello, I recently acquired this US M1 helmet that according to the dealer's estimate should be produced in the year 1944. The odd thing is : when I look to a tabel where a shlueter helmet ca

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    Default US M1 Schlueter/westinghouse liner/front seam/swivel bales with heat stamp 80A

    Hello,
    I recently acquired this US M1 helmet that according to the dealer's estimate should be produced in the year 1944.
    The odd thing is : when I look to a tabel where a shlueter helmet can be dated with the heat stamp, this helmet should have
    fixed instead of swivel bales. The heat stamp is 80A
    If I am right the heat stamp is not a lotnumber but is the badge number of the steel ?
    Thanks in advance for any input !
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    US M1 Schlueter/westinghouse liner/front seam/swivel bales with heat stamp 80A   US M1 Schlueter/westinghouse liner/front seam/swivel bales with heat stamp 80A  

    US M1 Schlueter/westinghouse liner/front seam/swivel bales with heat stamp 80A  

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    Forgot to insert the tabel
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    Lot numbers are often lightly stamped and difficult to see. I think I can see another number in front of the 80. The lid looks good. The liner has been refurbished. Very nice overall.
    John

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    Thanks 'Rescue190'
    What makes you think the liner has been refurbished ?

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    The sweatband does not match the wear of the pot. Take a pic of the markings on the nape strap and the sweatband. Is there a front hole in the liner? Just my opinion of course. Take that with a grain of salt. The netting also looks to correct but was applied after its normal use.
    John

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    Thanks a lot for helping me evaluating this helmet. The net inside the shell is hardened and stif (what doesn't of course rule out a netting put in postwar).
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    US M1 Schlueter/westinghouse liner/front seam/swivel bales with heat stamp 80A  

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    Better view on markings on the sweatband. Yes, there is a front hole in the light shell
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    Hello, indeed a Schlueter helmet with lot number 80 should have fixed loops, not mobile ones. Your helmet has the moving loops. It could be for two reasons: the lot number is missing a number, which would be under the paint, or perhaps it was repaired in times of war and some mobile loops were installed. I have a Schlueter that happens to him like that. Try to see if there is another number under the paint that can be seen because it does not appear to be a repair number, although if it does not have one, it would be a helmet repaired during or after the war. Also the chinstrap looks very new. All the best.

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    Thanks for the evaluation of the helmet, juanjo67....I played a lot with light and position of the helmet and making it wet for taking a good picture. Indeed, lotnumber is so lightly stamped that I loose it when I turn my eyes away. Not very enthousiastic to remove any paint of this helmet. Maybe a 2 in front of the 80A. Who will tell...
    According to the literature I found, the origin of the painted letter 'A' is unknown...,???
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    You Schlueter shell is lot 280A.
    The trick to Schlueter shells is the see where the S is centered. Example a 54A will have the S centered on the 4, while a 254A will have the S centered between 5 & 4. As you can notice on your shell, the S is centered between the 8 & 0, meaning there is a number in front of the 8. You can see the bottom line of the number 2.

    Schlueter changed from fixed loops to hinged loops around Lot 220.

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