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Article about: I have a small totenkopf stickpin which I assumed was a Panzer skull. After searching through another forum, I found a match that was simply described as being from "Kav Regt 5" It

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    I have a small totenkopf stickpin which I assumed was a Panzer skull.
    After searching through another forum, I found a match that was simply
    described as being from "Kav Regt 5"

    It was in a thread from 2007 by a guy banned from WAF but who many
    of us considered to be very knowledgeable on all things related to skulls.

    Can anyone point me in a direction to find information on the 5th Calvary Regt.
    I'm not having much luck on my own.

    Thanks,
    Greg
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    Here's some basic information...
    Lexikon der Wehrmacht - Kavallerie-Regimenter

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    Thank you
    gregM
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    It's very well possible that the Death's Head pin has a connection to the 5th Cavalry Regiment*.

    The Prussian-style Death's Head [Preußischer Totenkopf] worn as a cap badge** by personnel of this regiment was a traditions badge commemorating the Prussian Leibhusaren-Regimenter Nr. 1 & 2.

    It was initially worn by the regiment's 1st and 2nd Schwadron which carried the traditions of these Prussian hussar regiments. The badge was officially instituted by an order of 8 April 1922, but it had probably been worn unofficially before that date.

    By an order of 25 Feb. 1938, the traditions - and thus the wearing of the badge - were transferred to the regiment's staff, trumpet corps and the I. Abteilung.

    At the outbreak of war in 1939, the regiment was disbanded.

    With an order of 3 June 1944, Kavallerieregiment "Nord" (raised in 1943) was re-designated as the (new) Kavallerieregiment 5 and had the old regiment's traditions transferred to it. From the time it had been raised, it had already assumed these traditions unofficially, with its personnel wearing the Death's Head from the start. By an order of 27 Aug. 1944, the practice was officially permitted.


    *) The regiment's official designations were:

    • Reiter-Regiment 5 (when the regiment was raised in 1920)
    • 5. (Preußisches) Reiter-Regiment (re-designated in March 1921)
    • Kavallerie-Regiment 5 (re-designated in October 1936)



    **) For a nice example, see:

    https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/cloth...nt-5-a-197135/
    Last edited by HPL2008; 01-22-2017 at 05:12 PM.

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    This style of Tk was also used on some early SS caps , but was soon replaced with the jawed skull .

    Any photos ?

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    Thanks Andreas and Chris
    Here is the pin. It is small (10mm ) like most stickpin decorations
    of the time.
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    gregM
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    In my trying to find information last night on this stickpin, I found a few
    old threads showing the 5th Kav badge. It looks very much like the early
    Panzer skulls and was worn on the collar tabs and as a cap badge.

    Now I need to try and find one to go with my stickpin.

    Thanks again for all of the help.
    gregM
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    My only concern is the unfluted pin shaft , most original German made pins have this curling on the shaft . Here's a little write up regarding traditional badges , there might be more info if you'd lie me to take a look . Sorry it's sideways
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    Quote by CBH View Post
    My only concern is the unfluted pin shaft , most original German made pins have this curling on the shaft .
    That was brought up over at WAF as well and apparently these pins DID have
    the smooth shaft.
    gregM
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    Is the pin shaft even round ? Looks almost dagger shaped , and can we see the back .

    It looks great , I guess there are exceptions to every rule .

    I'd still apply this rule to standard lapel pins with round shafts .

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