HJ Koppelschloss - M4/28, steel?

[Fiore]

Hello all,

So I have this interesting HJ buckle, which I am fairly sure is a steel example, sold as 'cleaned' (i.e. restored, hence the great condition to the front), and as 'unmarked'. However, upon cleaning away the remains of glue from a sticker to the back, I discovered at faint RZM M4/28, for Paulmann & Crone, Lüdenscheid. However, from the makers list thread I see that this mark should be for a nickel/aluminium buckle, not steel. So either this is no good, or it's not in fact steel (see rust to the rear in photos).

All opinions/guidance appreciated!

Edit: very similar to this one - a good sign? HJ Buckle - M4/28



Nothing to see here...


Or is there? After cleaning (click to zoom):

[Carfin LEWYS]

Hello gentlemen,

IMO it is a good one. These buckle exist in Aluminium & in Steel Nickel plated with the marking M4/28 . These belt buckle is referenced in many books.

Best regards from Alsace , France.
Carfin.

[weller]

Nice HJ buckle. Is the buckle magnetic like a steel buckle would be? Here is another interesting thread on Paulmann & Crone HJ buckles. Several different and interesting maker stamps from P&C. Post#5 has the stamping on the right corner like yours, but is KH.

Just curious, does the belt have any stampings/markings?

Early P&C multiple stamps

[Ben Evans]

Original buckle, nothing wrong with it, maker stated by Jeff

[Fiore]

Nice HJ buckle. Is the buckle magnetic like a steel buckle would be? Here is another interesting thread on Paulmann & Crone HJ buckles. Several different and interesting maker stamps from P&C. Post#5 has the stamping on the right corner like yours, but is KH.

Just curious, does the belt have any stampings/markings?

Early P&C multiple stamps

Weller, I attach photos of the belt markings. It's actually a DJ belt.

[weller]

Weller, I attach photos of the belt markings. It's actually a DJ belt.

Great, nicely marked RZM belt. Makes a nice set

[Ben Evans]

I concur, great markings on the belt and not so often seen