BDM Untergaufuhrerin summer uniform patch (Who is a believer?)

**Jim P** · 02-13-2014, 03:49 AM

I picked this up years ago and posted it on a couple of forums and got a fairly even split decision. Some believed others did not. I just wonder if this situation has changed. It seems to be very well made of high quality construction and material. Does not glow under black light, even though I know that is no longer considered a good test, back then I did and it passed. All the thread, even the metal threads core, burns to ash, no synthetics at all.

So, are people still split on this patch or has there been a consensus one way or the other?

Jim

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 02-13-2014 03:49 AM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**FrankBooth** · 02-14-2014, 12:23 AM

I don't know if there is a consensus on this patch by everyone, but for me it's just too far away from the many examples I've seen that I like in construction, materials, shape and details of the bird, etc. Not one I would have any level of comfort with personally.

**Jim P** · 02-14-2014, 03:05 AM

Thanks for the input Frank. As I recall most who didn't like it felt that only the hand embroidered types to be original. The quality of this bevo patch is far above most other repro's I've seen. This may be why it is so hard to discount it, but no period evidence of it's existence may always rule it out. I'm really not too concerned one way or the other as I have no money in it. I have always been curious and not knowing for sure has always added to that curiosity. Hopefully others may share their opinions.

Jim

**wizardman** · 02-14-2014, 11:37 AM

At first sight i didnt like it,but the more i look at it,it seems well constructed..i think feel would be a good test..ill stay in the undecided camp, it doesnt look like some of the copies ive seen
these are listed at the moment,sorry i couldnt get better pics..i know its not the same but just as a comparison

BDM Untergaufuhrerin summer uniform patch (Who is a believer?)

**Jim P** · 02-14-2014, 01:15 PM

by bboywizard

At first sight i didnt like it,but the more i look at it,it seems well constructed..i think feel would be a good test..ill stay in the undecided camp, it doesnt look like some of the copies ive seen
these are listed at the moment,sorry i couldnt get better pics..i know its not the same but just as a comparison

Actually, the one you posted is exactly the same one I have.

Jim

**HJ-Collector** · 02-14-2014, 10:20 PM

these are fakes, evidence? HJ-Research! caught many that repro insignia has!

**wizardman** · 02-15-2014, 01:04 AM

HJ-Collector would know

**Jim P** · 02-15-2014, 04:49 AM

by HJ-Collector

these are fakes, evidence? HJ-Research! caught many that repro insignia has!

I can understand how someone could be taken in by it. In hand the quality of construction is far above any other repro cloth I have ever examined. The one thing that always bothered me is that this was the only rank in this style of patch I was able to find. If this were a period produced item, why are there some many of these available and none in any other rank.

Thanks for the input!

Jim P