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From Hammesfahr and WKC birdshead to Grawiso Mottoed transitional & WKC bowieblade HJ

Article about: Fighting/trench-knives or so called Grabendolche have about the same size as the later HJ knives - Fahrtenmesser Its easy to see that the WW1 birdshead knives by WKC could be one of knives t

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    Fighting/trench-knives or so called Grabendolche have about the same size as the later HJ knives - Fahrtenmesser
    Its easy to see that the WW1 birdshead knives by WKC could be one of knives that they looked at desiging the later HJ knife.

    In this case it also goes a bit futher, as in the very late build of WKC Knives 1941-42 (mostly unmarked ones) the same narrow bowie blade appears.
    It looks like they used an old ww1 stock of old blades to build their last lot of HJ knives.
    I have added 2 pictures of Victormann collection which showes them from WW1 to 1942 ( thank Herrmann ) got the pics when i bought a WKC HJ Knife with bowieblade from him.

    The WW1 Hammesfahr trenchknife bears the bufferpad but other than that its a solid knife, the WKC birdshead knife is a hard to find one and its blade is still in great condition, the scabbard did a terrific job, considering it has no bufferpad to loch the scabbards troath!
    Nice detail is the logo, which have been stamped twice.

    The Grawiso Mottoed early transitional has an early scabbard with only the front runnerits has the Stocko marked button.
    The blade is in lovely condition with a clear Motto and stillhaving crossgrain present, on the other side the makers logo on the blade and RZM code on the ricasso.

    Enjoy the pics.
    Regards,
    Ger

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    Hammesfahr trenchknife
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    WKC birdshead bowie blade tranchknife-Grabendolch
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    Grawiso transitional with Motto
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    Great work Gerrit..interesting variations and time frame.

    The community rarely gets a chance to see the forefunner type knives that the HJ adopted and transformed into their own style to be representative of that organization which the design is iconic to many novices just getting into the hobby.

    For the advanced..these are already have been seen..but a good study tool and reminder to refer to when others have questions. this thread will serve as that tool ..and will be pinned at the top of this thread for future reference.

    There are some rare variants in these photos provided especially the Bowie blade HJ.
    Well done Gerrit for sharing with the community the rudimentary beginnings of the HJ knife.

    Regards Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

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    Hi Ger,


    Good thread




    I will add this link to GDC thread on the WKC bowie blade hjs:

    HJ Drop-point - GermanDaggers.com

    Also will add link to a GDC thread on Anton Wingen knifes:

    Anton Wingen Jr: the inventor of the HJ-knife? - GermanDaggers.com




    Regards Mac 66

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    Thanks Scott for the Anton Wingen thread of Hermann, as the seasoned collectors already know he has an impressive collection, and seeing so many rare knives on 1 shelf is just amazing!

    Ger

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    There true beauties again Ger. Keep them posting

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    And now the Anton Wingen early HJ with the lower Diamond and the fighting knife blade, like the Hammesfahr. (copyright Warbooty)
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