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03-19-2014 07:00 PM
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The older ones with proper Solingen blades were a very good blade. Many were taken in and rehandled with the cub scout logo (not just in the States). I think there were two sizes of blade and handle as my mate has one that was obviously rehandled (only with the kids size handle). It was his fathers when he was in the scouts (early '50's) . The handles weren't the most comfortable and the checkering was too big for childrens hands, which is why I suspect many boys would have opted for the Rodgers Bowie with stacked leather. Also German stuff would have been (unfairly) regarded as inferior equipment in those days. I would love one for a rehandling project, but I think they might command decent prices these days.
The paragraph above is from a member at a forum that I am registered on. It is a helpful viewpoint but does not actually represent my own opinions.
Yes, yours is a post-war HJ style German Scouting knife and genuine for sure. The side that has the letter code on the ricasso tells the "troop" division where your scout knife was designated for. There are more that will have that same letter code.
No war era type say "Germany" in English because Nazi's spoke german and Hitler made decree not to have foriegn infulence or be taken to concentration camp.
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Great testimony to the quality standards of the RZM, seeing all these postwar ricaso stamps uneven, incomplete, and generally sloppy or even illegible.
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But one postwar invention/inovation I DO like is the baby HJ Messer. This smaller size is very practical, I've had many on my travels and used them for slicing tomatoes, etc. where the regular size HJ knife might have caused a bit of unwanted attention. The Rostfrei blade is nice too, tho it doesn't keep an edge quite as long as the regular steel of original HJ blades. Could someone post a picture of the 2 sizes together for comparison.
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Thanks for posting. That's a maker I haven't seen. Probably didn't make many before this one so didn't get the die-stamp fine-tuned yet.
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The RZM wartime HJ knife is really only for comparison to the topic I have posted so try to stay on this subject. If you like you may post new makers of German Scouting Movement HJ style types that are not sloppy and have never been with any Nazi approval in earlier career.
The "sloppy" makers marks just shows that "nobody perfect" and stuff happens that will distract your attention away from your work. We are all sensitive people.
Show some of the different blade shapes (ex. Buffalo Skinner) type of post-war HJ style scouting knives!
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Comparison Helps Too
The Hitler Jugend (HJ) of Nazideuschland and post-war german youth groups have a great deal in common, originating from traditional scouting, such as "Kohten", "Jurten", "Jujas" and many of the songs of Federal tradition. Nevertheless differences between both Scouts and Hitler Youth can still to be found, the largest being probably the education concept of scouts, rejected by Hess. They still do target shooting (even if they transferred in practice much of it). At the 1988 Meissner, which took place on the the 75th anniversary of the Free-German-Youth-Day, numerous Scouts participated out there on the rifle range.
Feel at ease to compare the wartime and postwar era because it helps to comprehend just what is going on here.
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