1914 Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse

[Montag]

Hello my friends,

I think this is a fake cross(fantasy), but I would like to hear your opinion!


MfG
S.W.

[Montag]

IMO : Core comes from Deumer the rest(backside) is fake(fantasy).

[fraglie]

You are right. The fakes you posted are 1914 EK 1 produced after the war. So it's an old fake.



BR
fraglie

[rbminis]

You are right. The fakes you posted are 1914 EK 1 produced after the war. So it's an old fake.



BR
fraglie

Not correct, WW I replacement EK's were produced during the TR period.
Ralph.

[Montag]

You are right. The fakes you posted are 1914 EK 1 produced after the war. So it's an old fake.



BR
fraglie

Core : Similar to Deumer
Frame : Similar to Steinhauer
backside : fake(fantasy)



MfG
S.W.

[Montag]

Not correct, WW I replacement EK's were produced during the TR period.
Ralph.

yes, By LDO


MfG
S.W.

[fraglie]

Not correct, WW I replacement EK's were produced during the TR period.
Ralph.

Hi there, My comment didn't mean that.


BR
fraglie

[Chopperman]

I will start by saying that I am not well versed in these "large crown / closed 4"
style of crosses.

That being said, I do not believe that this cross is using a Deumer core.
Deumer never used this core style. The crowns are noticeable different and
the dates are completely different. Deumer used a open 4 style font.

Pictured below are some examples of Deumer 1914s.

[Chopperman]

The core in the thread starter most closely matches the style used by
Steinhauer and Luck (S/L) and by Funcke & Bruninghaus (L/56)

S/L is also noted for using frames with rounded inner corners, much like the thread starter.

S/L crosses pictured below--

[Chopperman]

I do not have enough experience with these to comment with any certainty
about the reverse hardware, but if I had to make an educated guess about this
cross, I would say that it's probably a good S/L.