Austrian or German ww! ?

[pugnale]

Hello how can you identify these two ax accessories.
I think that little German, but the big one does not know!
Thanks
Best reguards

[Hoss]

The bottom one is for the small belt carried civic fire axe there is a smarter version of this for parades the top one is interesting are they any markings? but I doubt its German.

Eric

[pugnale]

Thank you,
I do not think there are stamps.
excuse a question ... if I understand correctly, the little one is for the fire department or the civic guards right? Is German?
The big one, do you think is Austrian ww1?

Best reguards