Freikorps Kreuz 2.Klasse mit Schwertern ?

[johanis1860]

Hello.
New addition of a cross.
On the front side it says "1914 Allezeit Bereit 1.Reserve Kompanie"
On the back the manufacturer has the stamp "FLECK & SOHN HAMBURG 3 GES Gesch"
There are crosses 1st and 2nd class.
My cross is 2nd class and the silver plating is "frosted".
There are various attachments for the 1st class cross
and the placement of the manufacturer's stamp in different positions.
On all crosses the manufacturer's stamp is identical.
In the case of the 2nd class cross I found two different fastenings for the band ring.
Crosses are mainly offered on Ebay.
I have not found any information whether they have ever been worn-awarted.
IMO, they are from manufacturer stock who are never awarted.
I am very grateful for any information.
Thanks.
Regards, Jannis.

[johanis1860]

Hello.
So far, have not received any additional infos from our forum members.
Also tried at Forums - Gentleman's Military Interest Club,
even without success.
Resume: without documetation, goes into the category "Fantasy piece"
Thanks.
Regards, Jannis.

[Chopperman]

Sorry we could not be of any help.
I searched through old threads over on the WAF forum and could not find a match to it.

[Wewelsburg]

Great design but I have never seen anything like it. I sure want to hear and info, real,copy or fantasy etc

[johanis1860]

First of all thank both of you replies. I tried on the web and in the three known forums without success, absolutely no infos.
The search continues, if I find out something I will sharing here.
Regards, Jannis.

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First of all thank both of you replies. I tried on the web and in the three known forums without success, absolutely no infos.
The search continues, if I find out something I will sharing here.
Regards, Jannis.

[Dos]

The past 2 years, I've seen a dozen of these crosses in both 1st & 2nd classed for sale on eBay by notorious sellers. I almost bought one myself due to the aesthetics.. I never found any information or period photos of them in wear. A sample board / list of this manufacturer, M. Fleck & Sohn is available from the year 1933. Whether this is the complete view of what they made in this year is not clear to me.

Is M. Fleck & Sohn a maker that was seen a lot in this time?

Perhaps this piece was made earlier than 1933.. This would make more sense too me if you look at the design of the skull.

Maybe in the timeframe of 1918-1923 Freikorps or Der Wehrwolf 1923-1933?

I think the first thing to do is have someone post an original award here from this maker with a clear shot of the maker stamp and compare it with the one in the OP.

[johanis1860]

I think the first thing to do is have someone post an original award here from this maker with a clear shot of the maker stamp and compare it with the one in the OP.

One good idea, if someone has an original maker stamp, please share it.
I will look for it too.
Regards, Jannis.

[Chopperman]

Maybe this will help.
It's not the same cross but it is an original Fleck made piece.
To me, there is a noticeable difference in the quality of the awards. Not just because
of the enamel but also because of the casting details of the badge itself.

[johanis1860]

It was really a good idea.
On a quick search, I found a similar manufacturer stamp at military-antiques-stockholm.com
German WW1 Battle of Champange Commemorative Cross, Military Antiques Stockholm

and several same types but with differences in the letters.

Have found crosses at trave-militaria, weitze.net, e-medals, mainly Champagne-cross, Verdun-cross, Somme-cross.
Regards, Jannis

[Chopperman]

The marks appear to match.