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German 1898/05 Bayonet

Article about: Hello to all! I recently bought a bayonet butcher nA model. Made by F.Koeller and Anker Werke with the very rare A.W. w/anchor marking which had no date for Prussia. But he also has no inspe

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    Hi all!
    I recently bought a bayonet butcher nA model. Made by F.Koeller and Anker Werke with the very rare A.W. w/anchor marking which had no date for Prussia. But he also has no inspection marks anywhere. Why?
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    The acceptance was usually on the handle head. This one is heavily reworked ... it was rusty and has been sanded down. The residues of the acceptance were also removed.

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    Dok, this thread and any further on S98/05 bayonets you should post in the "WW1 and Imperial forum". And perhaps the mod could transfer the thread to Imperial.

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    Good looking bayo. But as mentioned, it has been heavily cleaned .
    Who ever did the cleaning did a good job as there is very little remaining sanding marks.
    gregM
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    Thanks for your opinion. I think there were no imperial marks on this bayonet. It's not that it's well cleaned. I see a very good factory condition of the metal. The wood trims lie flat with the handle head and I can also see that the splines on the bolts are intact. I will measure the size of the arm head and compare with my other bayonets. As an example, I will give an identical bayonet Anker Werke and F.Koller, which has not been restored and has no imperial marks either. I have in my collection a sea butcher Simson Suhl, which also does not have an imperial mark on the head of the handle.
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    The company of Franz Koeller & Cie only made bayonets during the First World war, so Imperial era. Anker -Werke was actually a retailer, not a manufacturer and only sold bayonets during WW1. It's possible this bayonet it never had military acceptance marks if it was produced for a State organisation, Postal, Railways etc.

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    I compared the sizes of five different bayonets 98/05. The average size turned out to be in the range of 18 -18.3 mm, while the Anker Werke bayonet was 18.5 mm. What rough processing in this case can we talk about? It is the same as it was 100 years ago, of course it was used, perhaps it was slightly polished in our time.

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    Still a good looking knife.
    gregM
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    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Agree with Chopperman, a very tidy bayonet!

    Andy

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    Still a good looking bayonet, but it has been cleaned, notice the pitting on the crossguard. That is old rust that has been removed. And those grip screw heads recessed into the grip would not shine like that with out recent cleaning. A little work with 400 grade abrasive paper? But who cares, still a nice bayonet.

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