Medal bar - 1870 EKII with Jubiläumsspange

**Glittering_Ship4193** · 09-14-2021, 02:03 AM

Wanted to share this piece I picked up at auction for opinions. Not my realm as I focus on WWII. Was told I should ask for Chopperman.

1870 EKII with Jubiläumsspange - Cross and ring are unmarked, non-magnetic core, ring has visible solder line

Kriegsdenkmünze für die Feldzüge 1870–1871 with 5 clasps

Königgrätz Commemorative Cross - Apparently 4 versions of this medal were made. I am skeptical on this one because the medal itself seems a different material than the ring and it appears to have been reattached to the ring

Kaiser-Wilhelm-Erinnerungsmedaille Zentenarmedaille

Thanks!

Medal bar - 1870 EKII with Jubiläumsspange

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 09-14-2021 02:03 AM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Chopperman** · 09-14-2021, 03:05 AM

The iron cross and oaks are perfectly good. The other medals and ribbons also
look good to me but I do not collect them so my opinion is just and an opinion.

If you don't mind, I can reach out to someone who has a lot more expertise on
these pieces.

**Glittering_Ship4193** · 09-14-2021, 03:08 AM

by Chopperman

The iron cross and oaks are perfectly good. The other medals and ribbons also
look good to me but I do not collect them so my opinion is just and an opinion.

If you don't mind, I can reach out to someone who has a lot more expertise on
these pieces.

That would be wonderful, thank you! If they need more photos, let me know.

Is it common to find these early EKs without magnetic cores?

Wisconsin, eh? I'm over here in Minnesota.

**MAP** · 09-14-2021, 03:16 AM

Thanks Greg for the confirmation on the EK w/Oaks. That right there is a win for Andrew. If the whole bar is correct (i'm leaning towards yes but will defer to others more knowledgeable), then its a big win. This guy certainly saw lots of action!

In looking close, the EK looks like it has a brass core. Or is that just Andrews cheap iPhone messing up the color in the photo

**Chopperman** · 09-14-2021, 03:53 AM

The cross is a text book example of a awarded style cross. Commonly referred to
as the "Type A" cross. The core is cast iron. They were cast at the Berlin foundry
until it closed in 1873.

**Glittering_Ship4193** · 09-14-2021, 03:58 AM

by Chopperman

The cross is a text book example of a awarded style cross. Commonly referred to
as the "Type A" cross. The core is cast iron. They were cast at the Berlin foundry
until it closed in 1873.

That's interesting as the core is not magnetic. I tested it with a couple different magents. They couldn't get all the way down past the edges but it didn't feel like there was any magnetic pull at all.

**Chopperman** · 09-14-2021, 04:11 AM

That surprises me. In appearance, it's a great match to the iron cores.

**Glittering_Ship4193** · 09-14-2021, 04:14 AM

by Chopperman

That surprises me. In appearance, it's a great match to the iron cores.

Is it possible it could be brass as MAP suggested?

**MAP** · 09-14-2021, 04:28 AM

Some photos look like iron, but one appears to show brass. Again, could just be the lighting

**Chopperman** · 09-14-2021, 04:44 AM

I am unaware of any typeA cores being made of anything other than iron.
The company of A. Werner und sohn. made 1870s with non standard materials but their
core design was completely different.

I can not explain the magnet. Just from looking at it, I would say the the black coating
has wore off the high points and the bare iron is starting to rust. I guess I would like to
see this one in-hand to get a better idea.