Is this an original WWI Other Ranks 1895 Pickelhaube?

[alexander11]

Is this an original WWI Other Ranks 1895 Pickelhaube
Hi, nice looking Pickelhaube for sale & I thought best to post it here for opinion on originality. The chinstrap & the cockades look like they’re newer to me. Any opinions greatly appreciated. Kind Regards, Alexander.

[Chopperman]

I think that you are correct in your opinion. The helmet looks good to me but the
cockades look to have been repainted and the chinstrap looks to be a new replacement
that's been aged. IMO

The shell and brass look original to my inexperienced eyes.

[AndyM35]

Agree with Greg, looks good. As always, good clear photos really help but overall looks like an original haube. Chinstrap and cockades do show a different amount of ware and patina so may have been replaced or touched up. Not unusual on pieces like this that have seen a lot of action and abuse over the years. Looks like a small one as the cockades look huge! Must have been a warm day, all of the vents are open. Overall, a nice representative example.

Andy

[Kohima]

Sadly, over the course of 100+ years, somebody won’t be able to resist a little ‘restoration/tinkering’, on an item that is so easy to take apart..
Perhaps, in time, you could ‘de-restore’ it, with a crusty original chinstrap and suitably worn cockades.. but, all in all, as Greg and Andy point out, a very nice example.

[toot]

nice!

[HARRY THE MOLE]

It's a good example, and as previously said, the cockades tend to get lost and replaced over the years. A nice addition to anyone's collection. If you go ahead with the purchase, make sure you display it on a stand. Standing it on both peaks will do no good to that 100+ years of stitching.

Cheers,
Steve

[BobS]

Does the depot stamp show IR 170? If so, the wappen is incorrect & should be that of Baden, not Prussia.
9.Badisches Inf.-Regt. Nr.170 was raised in 1897. garrison Offenburg, III battalion at Donaueschingen.

BobS

[aicusv]

I agree with all that has already been said. A photo of the front go the helmet without the plate would be interesting. As IR 170 was a Baden regiment.

[alexander11]

So as is the case with a lot of these we’re looking at a lot of parts that have been swapped out.

It looks likely that the Wappen Plate, cockades & the chinstrap are all replacements.

I’ve got to weigh up everything. It is a very small Pickelhaube, makes it even easier to display. I can forgive the inconsistencies, as a small time collector they won’t bother me too much so I’d be happy to keep it as is, the only change that I feel would benefit it enough would be an original period chinstrap.

The price is €550 plus €30 in postage. That’s €100 more than one I posted here a few weeks ago that sold quite quickly.

The seller of this one has been waiting out to get more though, so I will have to act quickly if I’m to get it. Seems like a good deal to me on balance.

[BobS]

Overpriced, IMHO, especially with an incorrect wappen & cockade.
As it's stamped to a Baden regiment, any discerning collector will be loathe to pay full price for this haube if you ever want to sell it.

BobS