Prussian Pickelhaube Wappen?

**AZPhil** · 08-25-2021, 05:12 PM

Hello Gent's,
I have noticed that some Prussian Pickelhaube wappen's have either a scepter or a globus cruciger (Orb with a cross on top)
being held in the left claw of the eagle.

What do the different object mean/signify?

Semper Fi
Phil

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**TabsTabs1964** · 08-25-2021, 07:25 PM

Hi Phil.
The eagle of the Kingdom of Prussia is derived from the eagle of the Holy Roman Empire. Like that one, it holds in its left claw an orb with a Cross. This element symbolizes the dominion of Christ over the world.
Regards
Santi

**AZPhil** · 08-25-2021, 10:52 PM

Thanks Santi,
on the Kaisers site. Second row down.
Compare 1st and 2nd photo.
1st has the orb, Second has a different wappen with a scepter.

Index Dunkelblau helmets

That is what I'm asking about.

Semper Fi
Phil

That is what I'm asking about

**TabsTabs1964** · 08-25-2021, 11:26 PM

Ok I understand.
The Prussian eagle is also represented with the scepter in one claw and a sword in the other. Both are good IMHO

**AZPhil** · 08-26-2021, 04:29 AM

LOL!!!
I know they are both Good.

My question is,
Why the difference?

Was it infantry got the orb and cavalry got the scepter type if thing????

And Thank you Santi for taking the time to answer my question.

Semper Fi
Phil

**MAP** · 08-26-2021, 04:35 AM

I wish I knew Phil. I saw this after you posted and was hoping to learn. I'm sure Tony at Kaiser's could answer it in a heart beat.

**AZPhil** · 08-26-2021, 04:41 AM

OK I THINK I found my answer on the Kaiser bunker.
It looks like wappens with the Orb were all I.R.'s
and the scepter were Grenadiers or Garde.

I THINK that is right??
Would love a confirmation on that.

Thanks Santi for your help in answering my own question!!!

Semper Fi
Phil

**AZPhil** · 08-26-2021, 04:42 AM

by MAP

I wish I knew Phil. I saw this after you posted and was hoping to learn. I'm sure Tony at Kaiser's could answer it in a heart beat.

Thanks Mike.

I THINK I found the answer on his site!!!

Semper Fi
Phil

**MAP** · 08-26-2021, 04:48 AM

by AZPhil

Thanks Mike.

I THINK I found the answer on his site!!!

Semper Fi
Phil

It's a great site but admittedly a hard site to navigate. Understandable given the extreme complexities and variations of these.

So.....where? And what is the answer?

Edit: I see your post to Santi now.

**AZPhil** · 08-26-2021, 04:08 PM

Michael it is quite complex.
It is also not my specialty and I thought that some folks here were specialist in the subject.
So I figured I would ask the Pro's

Here is the image I found on the Kaiser Bunker site on wappen's.
It does take some navigation through the pages to get to this section.