Armoured Folly?

[Gunny Hartmann]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSwd7IcY9KA

A1E1 Independent a waste of time and energy?......

[Larry C]

Agreed !

[Watchdog]

This emphasises the importance of a properly thought out "Statement of Requirement" before even attempting the design process!

Makes one appreciate modern computer aided design software.

To be fair I suppose the motivation was there and at least the failure was recognised befor any more than the initial prototype were built.

Definately a good teaching piece to be preserved.

I think lessons were learned (eventually) but probably not really effectively until the Centurion came along.

Mark

[Gunny Hartmann]

This emphasises the importance of a properly thought out "Statement of Requirement" before even attempting the design process!

Makes one appreciate modern computer aided design software.

To be fair I suppose the motivation was there and at least the failure was recognised befor any more than the initial prototype were built.

Definately a good teaching piece to be preserved.

I think lessons were learned (eventually) but probably not really effectively until the Centurion came along.

Mark

Well put!...

[harryamb2]

wasn't something like this built by the Russians?.

[Gunny Hartmann]

wasn't something like this built by the Russians?.

Indeed Harry there were two,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-28 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-35

[lithgow]

Also by the Germans as a handful of prototypes that did see very limited use-the 'new construction vehicle' (a code name cover)-also designated as Panzer Mk V until the Panther appeared-the Independent wasn't a waste-look at what constituted a tank at the time-either war surplus WW1 vehicles or slight improvements on the Renault FT17 2 man types-this was an attempt to modernise the concept with a type that was much faster and more mobile and with an all round revolving turret for the main armament-MG sub turrets were a feature of larger British tanks well into WW2 with the Crusader as the last one to have it. Having an AA weapon was also very innovative-you didn't see turret top pintle mounts for that purpose until the late 1930s. Remember also that there was very little being spent on R and D anywhere in the world at the time just after the 'War to end all wars'.