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07-28-2018 08:36 PM
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Hello.
Would not be classified as a dagger but a dress bayonet... ks98 dress bayonet.
used with walking out uniforms.
But a decent looking bayonet and nice with the red felt insert.. always a bonus when the felt is in them!
Depends on where you are located in the world
But 120-140 euro i think would be a fair price..
Best regards,
Lt. Col
Ullergaard
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Its not often an Arthur Evertz Dress bayo is encountered . Nice find
Regards Larry
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
- Larry C
One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
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It was listed under daggers, but yea it isnt!
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Whoever had that listed under " daggers " , does not know the basic difference between an edged weapon having 2 edges ( dagger ) versus one. ( Knife )
Yet the word " knife " can carry both meanings.
A Bayonet can be used as a dagger or thrust weapon ..the end result equals to severely injured or death.
I hope you got a bargain price
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
- Larry C
One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
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Yes, a less common maker, with unique spanner screws different to the E Pack type. Condition good/ average, the scabbard lets it down. Correct frog. I would think about US $130 if from a US based dealer.
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I wouldn't purchase such an item as the bolts & spanner nuts holding the grip plates in place are definitely not original to the piece. I've owned a couple of Evertz KS98 & Feuerwehr bayonets & followed dress bayonets for some time & never seen one with this type of assembly. The only known examples with such a configuration are from Pack & Aesculap.
The bolts do not look special at all but rather something that worked in a pinch. The spanner nuts on the reverse give the example a pinch of authenticity but it's only an attempt to deceive. Avoid such a headache & save your money for a period original with no questions.
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Billy G
I wouldn't purchase such an item as the bolts & spanner nuts holding the grip plates in place are definitely not original to the piece. I've owned a couple of Evertz KS98 & Feuerwehr bayonets & followed dress bayonets for some time & never seen one with this type of assembly. The only known examples with such a configuration are from Pack & Aesculap.
The bolts do not look special at all but rather something that worked in a pinch. The spanner nuts on the reverse give the example a pinch of authenticity but it's only an attempt to deceive. Avoid such a headache & save your money for a period original with no questions.
Will agree with Billy G on this after taking a second look.. save your money and find a better one..
Plenty of theese around and to be found for a good price.
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The grip screws and spanner nuts could be from a service S.84/98 (98K) bayonet. The frog I'm a little less certain about - thinking that it might be a modified Luftwaffe service frog that has had the rivets removed. In any event this combo would be one that I would pass on and keep on looking for one that does not have any possible "issues". Best Regards, Fred
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Good to have a debate for once. I can't see anything in the screws and nuts that immediately says post war additions. The third photo shows a close look at one screw and it appears to have been some nickel plating remaining, as you would expect on a dress bayonet. The screw heads are too large for a S.84/98 combat, even the 1918 version (which I have). And Fred I can't see any evidence of rivets once residing in that frog. I have an unmarked KS98 bayonet that has screws and spanner nuts, very similar to this one. The only difference being the screw has no crosshead. I wouldn't rule this example out simply on the basis of rarity, as the maker itself is not often encountered. In that case it is very hard to say a maker "never did that" over 15 years of production, where few example survive. That said I wouldn't pay any more than what I originally mentioned and there are certainly better ones out there.
If I had to guess, I would wonder if this is not a 1920's version. The scabbard has some early suggestions about it.
Example of spanner nut dress bayonet, maker as of yet unknown.
Last edited by Anderson; 07-29-2018 at 12:59 PM.
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