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12-28-2020 05:40 PM
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Impressive Oleg and like you said that Hanger is rare and very attractive.
A first for me to see this kind of bayonet.
Regards Larry
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
- Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
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Its a beauty,
But may I ask what makes this a bayonet?
Was there a version with a mortise slot? Is this the dress version?
Type Rifle it was used on?
It's a new one to me, so please take my questions at an attempt to learn something and not casting doubt about the item.
To me it look like a dagger verses a Bayo..
Semper Fi
Phil
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Hi Phil,
of course you are right. It's not a bayonet. I just called it bayonet because it is not a dagger in its classic form for me.
In German there is a word for it "Seitengewehr". In English it would be "sidearm". This German term is not easy
to explain in another language.
Best regards,
Oleg.
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Man that is beautiful piece ,i always want to have one
Did you ever seen one with a open crown type pommel ?
Congrats
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Hi Ivan,
yes, I did. And this is the first time I see one of these with the closed crown. And I am very
glad to have it with hanger.
Best,
Oleg.
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Hi Phil,
of course you are right. It's not a bayonet. I just called it bayonet because it is not a dagger in its classic form for me.
In German there is a word for it "Seitengewehr". In English it would be "sidearm". This German term is not easy
to explain in another language.
Best regards,
Oleg.
Oleg, You can say that again. Sidearms for the (U.S) Army meant handguns. The Germans depending on the time period also used: Hirschfänger, Yatagan, Pionierfaschinmesser, Dillenbajonette - all to describe different types of bayonets. Best Regards, Fred
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Thank you Fred.
Yes, in German only the socket bayonets are meant as bayonets. They have a nail blade and a sleeve. The edged weapon with a knife type blade and a handle is called Seitengewehr. There is also no word in Russian to explain the term Seitengewehr
Best,
Oleg.
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That's an interesting side arm Oleg (perhaps hirschfanger is better term for it). Who is the maker and do you have an estimated date it was made?
Clearly it's post 1871 Imperial German, (based on the Imperial crown design) but it's interesting that this side arm doesn't appear in my 1908 Eickhorn catalogue.
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