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1st Model Luftwaffe dagger Paul Weyersberg

Article about: Hello again. Today I am showing a Luftwaffe 1st model school marked dagger. After the research I did, I think the dagger is correct. And there are two things I'm not sure about. I think the

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    Hello again. Today I am showing a Luftwaffe 1st model school marked dagger. After the research I did, I think the dagger is correct. And there are two things I'm not sure about. I think the hanger clip was added later, but it's still original and shouldn't be a problem. I don't know if this school marking is correct. I do not find such markings on any of the examples I have looked at. Please for your opinions.

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    The overall dagger is correct in material and production...others will chime in on the unit markings.
    The belt loop is correct as well for this period example. If and when it was added who knows but it is correct.

    I see no issues with the school marking itself and these 1st Lufts are common to see such markings ...just not as often.

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    Nice early Nickelsilver Weyerberg, all correct and clip is correct for maker and period, not added later.
    Lehrstaffel = training squadron
    nothing wrong with that either.

    Ger

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    Thanks for your opinions. They are useful for me.

    Regards Georgi.

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    Very nice one Georgi. I like it. Perfect patina to go with that nickle silver. Very good condition.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Tim

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    Very nice example. The instruction squadron inscription looks authentic and is a very nice touch. Lehr = instruction Ausbildung = training. The Lehrstaffel would be instructors aka teachers who would form cadre at a school or even a demonstration unit.

    I can see why you might question the clip. I am not a dagger specialist, but in my (limited) experience I would expect the links to attach the clip to be of the same metal as all of the other connecting links if the clip were factory attached. The links attaching your clip appear to be of a different metal. See the photos of daggers in my personal collection. Note two different styles of connecting links, but all of identical metal. However, I would not want to cross swords... err... daggers... with Ger as he is an actual specialist. Even if I can add a minor correction to his German translation. If Ger says they are good, they are good, but I would have asked the same question about them too if it were my dagger.

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    I love the looks of the 1st Lufts!! what a beautiful design!

    Regards, Geoff

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    Quote by TWS View Post
    Very nice example. The instruction squadron inscription looks authentic and is a very nice touch. Lehr = instruction Ausbildung = training. The Lehrstaffel would be instructors aka teachers who would form cadre at a school or even a demonstration unit.

    I can see why you might question the clip. I am not a dagger specialist, but in my (limited) experience I would expect the links to attach the clip to be of the same metal as all of the other connecting links if the clip were factory attached. The links attaching your clip appear to be of a different metal. See the photos of daggers in my personal collection. Note two different styles of connecting links, but all of identical metal. However, I would not want to cross swords... err... daggers... with Ger as he is an actual specialist. Even if I can add a minor correction to his German translation. If Ger says they are good, they are good, but I would have asked the same question about them too if it were my dagger.

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    the DRGM is an early type of clip and not only Paul Weyersberg used it in combination with nickelsilver chains, you find these clips also on NPEA leader daggers.
    Although i prefer a nickelsilver clip the DRGM is original and period correct.
    Here a few examples

    Cheers
    Ger
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    Quote by gerrit View Post
    the DRGM is an early type of clip and not only Paul Weyersberg used it in combination with nickelsilver chains, you find these clips also on NPEA leader daggers.
    Although i prefer a nickelsilver clip the DRGM is original and period correct.
    Here a few examples

    Cheers
    Ger
    Howdy Ger,

    Sir, I am not questioning the period authenticity of the clip. Merely stating that in my limited experience, the links connecting it to the chain... being of different metal than the other links of the chain... would cause me to ask the same question about it being factory attached.

    Compare the OP's photos (below) with the photos I posted of my 1st model Lufts.1st Model Luftwaffe dagger Paul Weyersberg1st Model Luftwaffe dagger Paul Weyersberg
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    Well the material isnt different, you can see that on the frontside, there the nickelsilver is clear to see.
    The difference you see in colour is solder on the links, the original thin solder of these links easily snaps, and lots of them are resoldered in time.

    Ger

    underneath the arrow you can see the dull solder on left side of the link
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