Adolf Hitler 1933 Supporter Badge
I know this one has been talked about before. I know some say its a fantasy piece and there are many reproductions out there but I got this from a veteran bring back lot and everything else in the lot is good so I wanted to get some feedback on this item. Everything looks good on it. It has an RZM mark. Wasn't the RZM officially organized in 1934 yet it is on a 1933 badge? I've read that the RZM was around before 1934 but maybe not officially? Set me straight, thanks!
Hi Ben...great to see you at the show and at the Mexican Restaurant
The RZM started around the Mid 1920s ...but did not kick in fully until the 1930s....as far as the Party badge is concerned...Moderator GreenHorn is the Gent to speak with and other members who are proficient in these badge types.
Hang tight one of these guys will be along shortly.
Regards Larry
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Hello,
Badge on the left is a fantasy piece unfortunately. This is an imitation of slogan badges…Heil Hitler, deutchland erwacht, zuruck zum Reich…etc.
These were all pre rzm and therefor would not be marked by the Reichszeugmeistere. After the nsdap took power the slogan and symapthy badges were not allowed to be worn…which is why “RZM” shouldn’t be marked on the back of these type of badges.
-Jason S
Last edited by jtshafiz; 09-25-2023 at 05:39 PM.
Hi Jason, any idea when these fantasy pieces came about? The vet who brought this back was the father in law of a buddy of mine who was in the 20th Armored who were one of the first to reach the Eagle's Nest. I mean, anything could have happened but I'm just trying to figure out how a fantasy piece would enter this group of bring backs.
Great to see you too Larry!
These pins were released around 1970. Same thing for the DE 1933 pins…all fantasy. Jo wrote about this in his book extensively.
How it ended up in the bring backs could have happened 53 years ago?
Here are other examples discussed at this forum a decade ago:
Adolf Hitler 1933 badge?
Help with Adolf Hitler 1933 badge, please.
-Jason S
I am no specialist on these badges, so this is just a general comment. There have been instances whereby an American WWII veteran, long after the war, decided to acquire a few additional items and he threw them in the same box with the items he brought back from the war. Sometimes the veteran unknowingly bought a fake item and his putting them in with his actual bringbacks can seriously muddy the waters.
Fairly rare, but this has even been seen with a few German veteran estates. The German veteran lost his medals in the chaos at the end of the war or his home was bombed out, etc. etc. and he decided years later to buy some post-war medals to replace his lost awards. Sometimes he didn't give a darn about being PC and he bought some post-war Souval or other pieces that were not the '57 versions.
Side note: Good meeting you at the group dinner Ben and everyone present should be thankful I didn't strike up a Corvette conversation with you.
Todd
Former U.S. Army Tanker.
"Best job I ever had."
Haha, would have loved to chat about Vettes. But my experience is limited to the C7 (the first one I test drove impressed me) and C8 (which I now own) and the early ones which I love looking at esp the split window. Which Corvette do you have?
Thanks Jason! I appreciate the info. I didn't pay anything for it so I'll keep it as a good story.
No problem!
-Jason S
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