Bronze Mutterkreuz genuine or fake?

[cod552]

Dear members,

could you please help me identifying whether this Mutterkreuz is original?

Every help is greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

[BrodieBartfast]

Both medal and ribbon are originals. The pebbled pattern under the blue enamel gives it away. This looks like an unissued example. Over its long period of storage with the ribbon wrapped around the medal, it's left a patterned imprint on the reverse.

My own - issued - example to compare.



Regards, B.B.

[cod552]

Thank you very much for your quick reply BrodieBartfast!

I was wondering if there were different types of writings as I've noticed that the letter "D" in "Dezember" for example looks a bit different on your example.

Regards,

cod552

[BrodieBartfast]

Thank you very much for your quick reply BrodieBartfast!

I was wondering if there were different types of writings as I've noticed that the letter "D" in "Dezember" for example looks a bit different on your example.

Regards,

cod552

There will always be small variations depending on the manufacturer. Mine didn't come with a packet, so there's no way to identify the maker. I can't see any packet in your photos, so presumably yours didn't either. Although it does seem to have retained its original paper wrapping. Regardless of that, you have a very nice unissued cross. I dare say it's even a mint condition example!

B.B.

[rbminis]

Regardless of that, you have a very nice unissued cross. I dare say it's even a mint condition example!

B.B.

Unissued, yes. Mint, no.
I do see verdigris forming on the obverse.
Ralph.

[rbminis]

It seems that you have posted two different crosses.
The signs of verdigris that I see on the darker photo, does not appear to be there on the brighter photos.
Ralph.

[BrodieBartfast]

Unissued, yes. Mint, no.
I do see verdigris forming on the obverse.
Ralph.

Ah yes, I see it now. Most bronze ones seem to have verdigris of some sort around the edges of the roundel. Perhaps a side effect of whatever adhesive they used to join it to the cross?

B.B.

[cod552]

Exactly, these are only examples, as the others are still packed and not opened.

I want to buy an unopened one like you see on this picture:

[Saladin]

Nice cross Cod552,
Your cross and the others that you show still wrapped up look like one from the Deschler hoard that was discovered recently.

Bit of info on Mothers crosses if you need it:
Vaulted Silber Mutterkreuz and all the research that goes with it!

All the best
Doug