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04-24-2017 11:21 PM
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Awesome looking badge! How was the gold wash applied? To my untrained eye, it almost looks like gold paint? Thanks, Bob
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Thanks Bob.
It is my understanding that this is a simple gilding and is also stated in the Weber/Skora book "The Kriegsmarine Awards". But to be honest, I don't know for sure.
It is not uncommon to see KM awards with the "gilding" overlap area on the obverse where there should be none as well as some overlay on the rear.
And also areas where there should be gilding and there obviously never was any. You can see a bit of that on a few of the edges of the oak leaves on the bottom of my award above.
Maybe someone else has a better explanation.
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Thanks for the explanation Michael. I understand the idea of dipping an entire badge to "wash" or "gilding" the surface but I would like to understand how it is applied to specific areas of a solid badge as opposed to a badge like the Luftwaffe Pilot / Observer badge where the wreath is gilded and then the eagle is applied.
By the way, excellent photographs also. Bob
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And for that...we will need others to explain. I would expect some type of leaf or paint like liquid but don't know.
Glad you enjoyed it. Photo's btw are not perfect. Couldn't get the depth of field on the top part of the first two photos...I'm overly critical...
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My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them
"Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)
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Possibly 6.01,if you are referring to the Weber/Skora book.
To me it is just a nice early tombak Schwerin with the domed head hingepin.
It shows slight wear on the the obverse highlights,revealing the tombak basemetal but still a great looking Fleet badge.
Cheers,Martin.
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Thanks Martin. Yes I was referring to the Weber book. And agree that in the end it doesn't matter to much whether it be a 6.01 or 6.02.
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My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them
"Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)
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Thanks for the explanation Michael. I understand the idea of dipping an entire badge to "wash" or "gilding" the surface but I would like to understand how it is applied to specific areas of a solid badge as opposed to a badge like the Luftwaffe Pilot / Observer badge where the wreath is gilded and then the eagle is applied.
By the way, excellent photographs also.
Bob
Hi Bob,
The fire gilding method was used on many TR awards, just like the HSF badge above, and an example of the process can be seen below:
And a description of how it is achieved here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilding#Fire-gilding
A cheaper method using a powdered metallic paste known as 'Brennlack' was more common later in the war as material restrictions became prevelent, but the application process is basically very similar to that of fire gilding only not as resilient in many cases unless other undercoatings of copper were first applied and then a sealing compound of liqiud nitro lacquer similar to nail varnish, and called 'Zaponlack' being used as a top coat.
Regards, Ned.
Last edited by big ned; 04-25-2017 at 02:15 PM.
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A very nice Tombak Schwerin award Michael, a great addition. Leon.
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Thanks Leon! Now looking for the next KM award to add....
"Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated
My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them
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