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Ostmedaille L/15 maker-fiction?/!

Article about: hello. i would be interrested in more opinions if the L/15 otto schickle pforzheim medal is a cheat or not. i have infos from 2 books but nothing about L/15. medal is ok for sure but the rin

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    hello. i would be interrested in more opinions if the L/15 otto schickle pforzheim medal is a cheat or not. i have infos from 2 books but nothing about L/15. medal is ok for sure but the ring???

    1st one: Maker list of the book “Die Medaille Winterschlacht im Osten 1942/42 (Ostmedaille)” by Sascha Weber:

    PK-number LDO-number Company
    1 L/10 Deschler & Sohn
    3 L/11 Wilhelm Deumer
    4 L/16 Steinhauer & Lück
    5 L/17 Hermann Wernstein
    6 L/24 Fritz Zimmermann
    7 L/13 Paul Meybauer
    8 L/19 Ferdinand Hofstätter
    9 Liefergemeinschaft Pforzheimer Schmuckhersteller
    10 L/21 Förster & Barth
    11 Großmann & Co.
    12 Frank & Reif
    13 L/60 Gustav Brehmer
    14 L. Christian Lauer
    15 L/14 Friedrich Orth
    18 Karl Wurster K.G.
    19 L/51 E. Ferdinand Wiedmann
    20 L/52 C.F. Zimmermann
    23 Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf in der Graveur- und Ziseleurinnung
    24 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller
    25 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-, Gold- und Silberschmiedeinnungen
    26 L/18 B.H. Mayer Kunstprägeanstalt
    27 Anton Schenkl / Maria Schenkl
    28 Eugen Schmidthäussler
    29 Preußische Staatsmünze
    30 Hauptmünzamt Wien
    39 Rudolf Berge
    51 Eduard Görlach & Söhne
    55 J.E. Hammer & Söhne
    57 Karl Hensler
    60 Katz & Deyle
    61 Rudolf A. Karneth & Söhne
    63 Franz Klamt & Söhne
    65 L/26 Klein & Quenzer
    66 Friedrich Keller
    71 Rudolf Leukert
    73 Franz Mähnert
    76 Ernst L. Müller
    77 Bayrisches Hauptmünzamt
    80 L/63 G.H. Osang
    85 Julius Pietsch
    88 L/62 Werner Redo
    92 Josef Rückert & Sohn
    93 Richard Simm & Söhne
    98 L/58 Rudolf Souval
    100 L/55 Rudolf Wächtler & Lange
    107 Carl Wild
    108 Arno Wallpach
    109 Walter & Henlein
    110 Otto Zappe
    117 Hugo Lang
    127 Moritz Hausch AG
    138 L/23 Julius Maurer
    Arbeitsgemeinschaft Metall & Kunststoff Gablonz
    Metallwarenfabrik Posen – Hans Dieren


    and 2nd book: Maker list of the book “The Awards of the Heer – Volume I” by Dietrich Maerz and Bernd Hartmann:

    PK-number Company
    1 Deschler & Sohn
    3 Wilhelm Deumer
    4 Steinhauer & Lück
    5 Hermann Wernstein
    6 Fritz Zimmermann
    7 Paul Meybauer
    8 Ferdinand Hofstätter
    10 Förster & Barth
    11 Grossmann & Co.
    13 Gustav Brehmer
    14 Christian Lauer
    15 Friedrich Orth
    16 Alois Rettenmayer
    18 Karl Wurster KG
    19 E. Ferd Wiedmann
    20 C.F. Zimmermann
    21 Gebrüder Godet & Co.
    22 Boerger & Co
    23 Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf …
    25 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveure, …
    26 B.H. Mayer Kunstprägeanstalt
    28 Eugen Schmidthäussler
    29 Hauptmünzamt Berlin
    30 Hauptmünzamt Wien
    35 F.W. Assmann und Söhne
    39 Rudolf Berge
    41 Gebrüder Bender
    43 Julius Bauer & Söhne
    50 Karl Gschiermeister
    51 Eduard Görlach & Söhne
    53 Glaser & Söhne
    55 J.E. Hammer & Söhne
    57 Karl Hensler
    58 Artur Jöckel & Co.
    60 Katz & Deyle
    61 Rudolf A. Karneth
    63 Franz Klast & Söhne
    65 Klein & Quenzer
    66 Friedrich Keller
    71 Rudolf Leukert
    73 Franz Manert
    74 Carl Maurer & Sohn
    76 Ernst L. Müller
    77 Hauptmünzamt München
    80 G.H. Osang
    83 Emil Peukert
    85 Julius Pietsch
    88 Werner Redo
    92 Josef Rückert & Sohn
    93 Richard Simm & Söhne
    98 Rudolf Souval
    100 Rudolf Wächtler & Lange
    107 Carl Wild
    108 Arno Wallpach
    110 Otto Zappe
    112 Argentorwerke Rust & Hetzel
    117 Hugo Lang
    127 Moritz Hausch AG
    138 Julius Maurer
    Metallwarenfabrik Posen

    LDO-number Company
    L/55 Rudolf Wächtler & Lange
    L/57 Boerger & Co.
    L/58 Rudolf Souval
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    the medal is fine no problems.

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    i know thats fine but the maker is not on any makers list for this type of award and i didnt find anything on the web that ooto schickle made eastern medals...

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    I dont think Otto Schickle made ostmedals.
    So either it is a postwar stamp or the ring is from another award.

    Besides that, I regard all L15 marks as possible Flochs.

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    Don't forget, Otto Schickle is L/15, not L15. Note the difference.

    L15 has been used by Floch on his post war creations and any award with this designation should be viewed with suspicion.

    Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....

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