Please help! Deutsches Kreuz in Gold (German Cross in Gold) 😖

[Ronnieb]

Before unloading a lot of cash on this item, which I probably will have to. I really need the help of somebody that really knows these things. Can you take a look at the pictures and give me an opinion? Looks spot on to me except around the year the lines surrounding it are pretty well defined as opposed to some of the other golden crosses I’ve seen on eMedals. Thank you

[kekel]

Heavy DKIG + matching early case - C.F. Zimmermann - Generalassaultmilitaria this is original ,I think yours is not true

[TWS]

Bad. Way bad. Run away.

[Ronnieb]

Thanks for your opinion! Can I ask why? Looks great to me but I need someone smarter than me to tell me

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I’m sorry , are you replying to my post? Not sure I understand it. Thanks!

[Ronnieb]

OK I see it now. Thank you for the link. I have done some research and seen a decent amount of variations on these. Including the rivets, the pin etc. Obviously several different makers

[Ronnieb]

Thanks for the post. What do you see about it that you feel it’s a reproduction?

[kekel]

>> Německy křiž (Das Deutsche Kreuz) Sorry I can't tell you the details, study and read is important and if you're interested in finding out why it's not the original thing you have to read and figure it out yourself. I also had to

[TWS]

Ronnie, I replied to your PM with some details. This cross is so far from an original Zimmermann that it's not even trying hard. The "20" maker mark is completely wrong and in the wrong place - it should be on the other side of the pin and should be vertical, not horizontal. Furthermore the rivets are trash. Compare them to the rivets on an original Zimmermann. I don't have a Zimmermann here, rather a Godet, a Juncker, and a Steinhauer & Luck, but I am familiar with Zimmermann.
Also note the details about the wreath I sent in my PM, then pull up an original Zimmermann. Actually, any original DKiG and you'll see what I mean.

[MAP]

Todd and Kekel are 100% correct.

Zimmerman made a "heavy" and "Light" version. This in all ways does not match up. Just the rivets alone are wrong.

Compare to mine

Deutsches Kreuz in Gold - C.F. Zimmerman

[Ronnieb]

Thanks so much for your reply . Means a lot! Didn’t even notice the pin going the wrong way. Got to be careful next time! Didn’t buy it of course . Thankfully