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the inner old cartridge 1920 - what is it?

Article about: Hello, I have a question about old ammunition. I got several cartridge cases and in some were leftovers of the filling in it. In the middle was black wool (fibers). They smelled of old oil.

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    Hello,
    I have a question about old ammunition.
    I have seen at a museum old ammo.
    In the middle was black wool (fibers).
    At the bottom, small black, gray tiles. Black powder?
    Also i´ve seen at 2 cartridges were small, black wooden rings in it.

    What was the wool? Why wooden rings?

    Thank you
    Last edited by Dickdan007; 12-11-2017 at 02:57 PM.

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    If it was a shotgun shell or something similar, the wool may have been a spacer to separate the contents from the propellant charge. The rings might have served a similar purpose to the metal disc found in First World War shrapnel shells. There to 'push out' the metal pellets.

    Example:

    the inner old cartridge 1920 - what is it?

    B.B.

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    Thank you,
    they were cartridges from the 2nd WW. For a gun.
    Can the wool also be shooting cotton (cellulose nitrate)?
    The propellant looked like the photo.
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    I'm unfortunately not a munitions expert. I'm vaguely familiar with most British munitions, in particular First World War field gun shells. The cordite we used as a propellant is very distinct, as it resembles dry spaghetti.
    If you are able to identify the specific cartridge or shell you saw, there are people on this forum who would know every detail of it, inside and out.

    B.B.

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    The small wooden rings you describe sound like Italian Solenite propellant,usually a dark brown it darkens with age,look up Solenite on Google images. The wool packing with a small amount of powder COULD BE a low velocity guard loading,the packing was there to hold the small powder charge down against the primer....Pete.
    JEDEM DAS SEINE

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    Thank you.
    Some cartridge cases were built around 1920 in Czechoslovakia.

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    Hello, I'm barking again.
    What are the WW2 cartridges filled with?
    Black powder? No or!
    Nitro?

    Thank you
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    Quote by Dickdan007 View Post
    Hello, I'm barking again.
    What are the WW2 cartridges filled with?
    Black powder? No or!
    Nitro?
    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q...wder&FORM=IGRE
    Thank you
    Take a look here.......
    JEDEM DAS SEINE

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    I remember very long time ago ripping apart some WW2 .303 cartridges and the had a spaghetti like propellant. Black powder is not smokeless so not used in WW2 and I think even in WW1?

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    The shell is loaded with smokeless gun powder. The smokeless appears in a couple of forms, stick and flat disks.

    Mart
    Last edited by Martin C; 01-01-2018 at 11:54 PM.

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