You wrote: Copy death certificate śp RZEPKOWSKI.
Ps:1921-118-III:numer ewidencyjny karty żołnierza/the card number of the soldier's card.
I misunderstood?
Anyway, that's not the point - I know what an id number is, my question was: where does the number 118 come from? what does that number refer to?
or in my father's case the number 119 - Jerzy Gradosielski 1916/G/119/III
???
Hello Elżunia
Beating on dog tag:
A.P = Armia Polska = Polish Army
1916 = Year of birth
119 = Registration Number
III = Army Recruiting Command*
RZ KAT = Rzymski Katolik (Roman Catholic) - religious affiliation
GRADOSIELSKI = surname
Jerzy = Christian name
*Army Recruiting Commands (wartime)
I = 1st Corps (England)
II = Polish Air Force (Blackpool)
III = APW - Polish Army in the East) / 2nd Corps (Italy)
IV = JWŚW - Jednostki Wojskowej na Środkowym Wschodzie = Polish Army Units in the Middle East (Egypt)
Where does the number 118 come from?
Army Recruiting Command III:she kept records of soldiers.
From the census of soldiers born in 1916.All general military chancelleries keep records of soldiers. In the list of soldiers born in 1916 under heading 119, there is probably the name GRADOSIELSKI, and those born in 1921 under the name 118 GIERKA.
If you have documents, post them on the forum.
Ps.In every army of the world there is order and records are kept according to established laws and office norms. I know something about it because I was in the army a writer in the office.
Records from my soldier pay book.
SW = wax specialty
SW:87-3-60:law firm = writer at the office
SW:87-3-61:senior drawer = senior specialist writer
Ps.1:1921-118-III:registration number of the soldier's card.
Ps.2:I need to look for one document in my digital files. This is described in three languages.
Best wishes
Artur
Copy death certificate śp RZEPKOWSKI for example.
Once again:
Copy death certificate śp RZEPKOWSKI.
The notarial copy is written:
Jednostka ewidencyjna:Record unit:17 baon strzelców
Numer znaku tożsamości:Identity number dog tags:80-III
Dzień i rok urodzenia:day and year of birth:6th October 1912
In the copy death certificate śp GIERKA would be:
Jednostka ewidencyjna:Record unit:5 baon saperów.
Numer znaku tożsamości:Identity number dog tags:118-III
Dzień i rok urodzenia:day and year of birth:16th December 1921
In addition, there is another number:see post # 68:60838/42.
If someone was registered in 1941, it probably had a number, for example:19998/41.
If someone was registered in 1943, it probably had a number, for example:00789/43 e.c.
And one more number:see post # 70:
red color 30001045,red color 30100549
Best wishes
Artur
Strangely, this gives a different nr: 1921/38/IV
Elzunia
Hello Elżunia
GIERKA he was in the records IV = JWŚW - Jednostki Wojskowej na Środkowym Wschodzie = Polish Army Units in the Middle East (Egypt) and he came to as part of supplements to 5th baon saperów.He had with him this command IV dog tag and most probably he was not given a new one-III = APW - Polish Army in the East) / 2nd Corps (Italy)-because he flew in the field of glory,26th May 1944 or there was no need.The documents need to be found when he came to the second corps as part of the restoration.
See:ZESZYT EWIDENCYJNY GIERKA Jan.
For exaple the registration notebook looks like this.
Best wishes
Artur
thank you for the extra information - where did you find this? how do I find his ZESZYT EWIDENCYJNY?
I am trying to write a bio for Jan. His distant family in Poland know very little. Family tradition says he was in prison in Grodno, reason unknown. They think he escaped and then joined Anders army but they don't know any more.
Elżunia:
Family in Poland?
If you want to know more, the family of Jan GIERKA must write to: Ministry of Defense APC Polish Inquiries Building 28 b RAF Northolt West End Road Ruislip Middlesex HA4 6NG or email: polishasstdisoff@northolt.raf.mod.uk They have a registration book with all GERKA entries. Search for direct ancestors like father, grandfather etc. they are free, however, somehow the degree of kinship must be demonstrated. If you are looking for other people you will have to pay a fee of 30 GBP. The employees of this archive check if they have such files at all and send an answer to receive photocopies we have to fill in, we will receive confirmation of the existence of the data we are interested in - Certificate of kinship. czernichowska@hoover.stanford.edu is the e-mail address to the employee - Irena Czernichowska working at the Hoover Institute in the USA. You can write in Polish. Various documents are stored at the Hoover Institute.
Ps.The biggest problem in Poland is a banker's check. There is only one person in a bank in Warsaw who can do it...
Seasons Greetings to YOU
Artur
My contact in Poland is his great nephew ie Jan was his grandmother's brother - does that count as direct ancestor? no other living closer relatives
yes, I have these for both my parents. Rather difficult to read the tiny handwritten Polish though!
Mines numbered 12’655 3rd Rifle Division that’s as far as I’ve got... any assistance on finding out the name, rank and Battalion of the recipient.
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