I need little help about SA dagger

**Finngaill** · 03-08-2018, 09:29 PM

Hello good members of this forum. I have found nice looking SA daggers finaly, have try to find long time to buy and now there is two. So need little help to know are those real or not, of course seller say those are reals

This first one is SA RZM M7/13, cost 750e

Second is SA RZM M7/83, cost 800e

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 03-08-2018 09:29 PM

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**Franjo Vuk** · 03-08-2018, 09:45 PM

Hello and welcome to the forum. I know very little about daggers, but I think that these pictures are not good enough for some final judgement regarding authenticity. Seller should provide much better pics than that.

Best regards,
Franko

**gerrit** · 03-09-2018, 08:45 AM

Well both are way overpriced, and not in good condition looking at the blades.
The first one is an Arthur Schuttlehover, a very common maker, the blade is in bad condition and although the pics are not well enough to examen it properly, i dont get very warm feelings looking at it.
The blade Always should be good otherwise a RZM is worth less to nothing.

the second one has some major plate lifting on the guards and the blade seems to be heavily buffed-polised or over cleaned.
Then its price: 800 euro's for a late RZM? who in gods name is trying to rip you?

Get yourself an early one made of nickel silver, medium to good quality M1933 are in the same price range
I think you live in Europe, i have a good friend who can provide you one for a decent price.

Need help then PN me.

Regards
Ger

**Finngaill** · 03-09-2018, 08:28 PM

Thank you both for advice and i totally agree that those both are overpriced, this guy sell also some else militarian relics too big price and he sell even normal 2nd class iron cross that kind price
what is just out of this planet.
And yes those pictures are not so good. Like Gerrit say i do not also get any warm feeling from those two.

I can Gerrit to PM to you little later about this, little bit busy now this weekend

**MAP** · 03-09-2018, 08:35 PM

Beautiful piece of nice burled wood but terrible if used as a background when evaluating a dagger

Just sayin'.........

**Rossi** · 03-09-2018, 08:55 PM

by Allgemeine

Thank you both for advice and i totally agree that those both are overpriced, this guy sell also some else militarian relics too big price and he sell even normal 2nd class iron cross that kind price
what is just out of this planet.
And yes those pictures are not so good. Like Gerrit say i do not also get any warm feeling from those two.

I can Gerrit to PM to you little later about this, little bit busy now this weekend

Welcome to the Forum! Ger is a good resource and your in good hands. He will help you get a nice SA to invest in. Good luck!

Rossi

**MAP** · 03-09-2018, 09:07 PM

by Rossi

....Goof luck!....

**HARRY THE MOLE** · 03-09-2018, 09:42 PM

by MAP

Beautiful piece of nice burled wood but terrible if used as a background when evaluating a dagger

Just sayin'.........

The background used can make or break a picture. These images are almost as bad as some I saw of a rifle for sale laid down on a camouflaged combat jacket!

**Franjo Vuk** · 03-09-2018, 10:00 PM

I will never understand why some dealers/sellers in this day and age are not willing to take some good, clear, nice quality pictures. That is obvious for some crooks, if someone selling fakes as originals that person will provide some blurry pictures in odd angles, but if someone selling original item that is absolutely incomprehensible.

Best regards,
Franko

**Wilhelm Saris** · 03-15-2018, 10:11 AM

by HARRY THE MOLE

The background used can make or break a picture. These images are almost as bad as some I saw of a rifle for sale laid down on a camouflaged combat jacket!

Very disturbed, I just see wood and no dagger. Maybe it is my old age! I do
have pain in the eyes.
This is just as disturbing as what Harry the Mole says: photographing upon
camouflage cloth or even worse, as photographing items upon a flag!