Part erased Ernest Rohm SA Dagger
Hi Guys,
I picked this up this morning on a house call. I deal in British Medals but sometimes come across the odd dagger. The scabbard has a set of initials scratched into it. But the handle has a name scratched into the back of it. It looks to be Robert Baugest or Robert Bougest. It has a Hamburg Gau mark. Any chance he could be traced? I know a long shot!
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Hello..
The dagger itself is in poor condition and overall poor fittings crossguard to the handle.. sa roundel is upside down.. you will probably not be able to find anything on the name unless a high ranking person which I doubt.
Thanks, I still think its a pretty interesting piece of history and nice a British Vet brought it home
The blade has a ton of history ...not so much with the upper guard that does not belong that does not fit well to the grip and also overtightened tang nut which has split the grip wood and enlarging the Runes Roundel ( Good observation Colonel)
The vet may have pieced it together which was common during the occupation.
There is a remnant of a logo but sharp eyes and comparison with producer logos will identify the producer.
Who is up for the challenge ?
Regards Larry
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The blade has a ton of history ...not so much with the upper guard that does not belong that does not fit well to the grip and also overtightened tang nut which has split the grip wood and enlarging the Runes Roundel ( Good observation Colonel
The vet may have pieced it together which was common during the occupation.
There is a remnant of a logo but sharp eyes and comparison with producer logos will identify the producer.
Who is up for the challenge ?
Regards Larry
I could see post war "piecing" together of late war RZM parts...would assume these parts were available.
But where would a vet find all early parts and a ground Rohm blade no less. And why would he pick a scabbard that was in such poor shape?
That top nut (from the limited photos) looks un touched with no marks on it, at least for a very very long time (better photos would of course confirm).
Adam: I would possible think the last name could be Raugust? It would match with the R.R. initials.
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Well Larry, do you need a logo with a grip like this one?The blade has a ton of history ...not so much with the upper guard that does not belong that does not fit well to the grip and also overtightened tang nut which has split the grip wood and enlarging the Runes Roundel ( Good observation Colonel
The vet may have pieced it together which was common during the occupation.
There is a remnant of a logo but sharp eyes and comparison with producer logos will identify the producer.
Who is up for the challenge ?
Regards Larry
But then again, does this grip belongs to this dagger, or is it just a mismatched topguard?
Even the big gap will not cover the very bad fit of this blonde grip ....
Ger
Last edited by gerrit; 09-26-2019 at 09:41 AM.
Tang nuts some of the time dont need to show open marks and may have well been thumb tightened..
@ Ger ..The grip may not belong to this dagger very true ..the challenge was ...who is the producer ?
Best Larry
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
Well Larry, the answer was in my reply tooTang nuts some of the time dont need to show open marks and may have well been thumb tightened..
@ Ger ..The grip may not belong to this dagger very true ..the challenge was ...who is the producer ?
Best Larry
Typical Blonde grip used by my favorite producer
Ger
Thanks for all the responses. Admittedly I don't have a great deal of experience with Rohm daggers. However, I don't feel this dagger has actually ever been taken apart. It has been stored in an airing cupboard for 70 years but looks to have had a hard life before that.
Would people agree the value is around £300?
Do I see a little trace of a hammer head?
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