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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Here is another fake Bavarian Observer badge, but not a very good one. The fixtures on the rear are modern, and the overall detail of the badge is poor. The crown is ill-proportioned and the crown...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Here is yet another fake Bavarian Pilot Badge. Apart from the crude casting, this type of pin fixture was never used during the period, and can be found on many other fake badges much more crude than...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Using a photo posted by Maj. Morris above...

    Here is another element of detecting a questionable badge that we haven't discussed yet. Look at the finish, I have yet to see a legitimate example...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Here is a fake screw back version of the Prussian Pilot Badge supposedly made by CE Juncker, Berlin. Again, note the tick mark on the lower right of the crown well. Note the hallmark combination as...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Many thanks for the posting Major. The side by side views are very helpful!
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Hi,

    While I do agree that there are some individuals that have long been recognized as crooks, a badge, or any other item should be judged on its originality based on the appearance of the...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Thanks John. I hate to see collectors buy fake badges for ridiculous amounts of money. Hopefully, this will help would-be buyers to at least think a little harder and ask some questions before...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    For comparison, here is an original Meybauer badge featuring their trademark pin...note the differences.
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Here are two more fakes pretending to be made by the firm of Paul Meybauer. Both are very bad castings in cheap metal. The first badge features a poor attempt at recreating the characteristic "coke...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Ouch!!! Some poor soul just "won" this at auction for $1650.00...:(
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Excellent point Major. Here is a reference photo of a GOOD badge that illustrates what you pointed out above.
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Thanks for the replies guys. To my knowledge, there is not a comprehensive book that focus on fake Imperial German badges. The above is a result of my studying the way period badges were made (not...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    This fake is a really bad attempt. It is poor quality cast metal, complete with bogus marks. Sadly, this is still capable of fooling a few collectors who buy without knowing anything about materials,...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    This one is laughable. These cut out types are appearing more and more on auction sites. Don't fall for it - bogus. This one is pretending to be a product of Paul Meybauer (the distinctive stylized...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    The previous examples posted are of good quality, and as stated, can easily fool an unsuspecting and uneducated collector. The following badges fall into another category of fakes - crude.



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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    The above badges are just a few examples in different variations that feature the same flaw mark in the same exact area. Would any of these fool you if you didn't know about this wandering die flaw?...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    OK....you say you want something REALLY rare? How about a fake Bavarian Aerial Gunner Badge marked 'Carl Poellath' (yes, Carl with a "C"). We can address this later.
    Look close, can you see the die...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Army badges really aren't your thing? No problem, how about a fake Imperial Navy Sea Plane badge marked 'CE Juncker' then?


    *Seller's name has been removed from the picture.
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Perhaps Bavarian isn't your style...no problem. You can have a fake Prussian version engraved and marked 'CE Juncker'.
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    How about an fake Bavarian Pilot badge marked 'Karl Poellath'...complete with engraving? Same mark, same position.
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Prussian Observer with CEJ mark. Note the mark as shown above, same position but this time on a style of badge that did exist. Not to get too far off topic, but there are other indicators as well...
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    Here is a badge that is total fantasy, as in - never existed. This is a supposed Balloon Badge. Note the flaw mark on the reverse.
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    Sticky: Re: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    This first group of badges posted all have the same thing in common, a small "tick" mark or flaw on the reverse, lower right side of the crown well.

    Die flaws did, and do exist even today,...
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    Sticky: FAKE World War I Imperial German Flight Badges

    This thread is not about trashing the individual who may be selling the wings we post, it is about educating ourselves so when we do see them on sites, we can steer clear of them. There is a lot of...
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