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K98 Dress bayonet in combat?
I moved these last few posts to its own thread and into the K98 forum as This subject does not belong in the SS forum. The subject of what looks to be a dress bayonet in combat should make for good discussion.
Noticeably in Freds photo is what looks to be an afforded view of a dress bayonet being worn by the soldier on the left. Interesting!! What is visible is the silver between the grip plates and the rifle slot.
I would have to disagree that the finish on the bayonet is a blued shiny finish. My observations see a bayonet underneath a soldiers am which is shadowed,,, but even within a shadow,, any silver plated fitting would still stand out,, even in black and white. Comments?? Regards Larry
Last edited by Larry C; 04-19-2013 at 02:41 AM.
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04-18-2013 11:55 AM
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Larry interesting observation on the soldier with the bayo on his left. I had to blow up the picture, but it sure looks like a dress bayonet? it looks more chromed than blued. thin steel between the grip plates, instead of the flash guard. is it just my eyes ?
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Re: K98 Dress bayonet in combat?
I dont know Fred,, looking at the combat photo and the shadow beneath the soldiers arms seems to show a brightness more than what a polished steel may produce in photos. Brushed steel IMO in a black and white photo will more or less blend in with the half tones of the photo. The dress bayonet itself..will show a white tone although silver in real life. The soldier on the right being helped looks to have the brushed steel type bayonet. Thoughts anyone on a Dress bayo used in combat and also any comments on black and white photos and what the seem to show? Regards Larry
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
- Larry C
One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
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Re: K98 Dress bayonet in combat?
Larry
I agree with Fred on this one especially if the rifle is a vz24.
Additionally many dress bayonets don't actually fit on rifles particularly well, the construction of some with only a partial tang makes them weaker than the standard issue. Regulations would not, I suspect allow a soldier to carry such a bayonet.
Regards
Richie
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Re: K98 Dress bayonet in combat?
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Re: K98 Dress bayonet in combat?
Hi gents although I still have much to learn about bayonets and dress bayonets..those who are experienced as yourselves more so on the bayo subject than myself...I recede my position.
For the fact of a black and white photos..IMO is still a hard call to make as to me it still looks like a dress bayo. Given the nature of the rifle of course..would make sense, that it is brushed steel. Now a new question arises,,that the new photos above ,,these guys look like Liebstandarte solders,,whom also wore dress bayonets,,and definitely not armbands into battle. I do realize that these guys were training for battle.
What would put my suspicions to rest,,is to actually get within 6 feet of the bayonet while being worn by the SS mann,,and not getting shot or arrested for my hobby curiosity. Your photos Fred are excellent in close up,,with no pixelation.
The 60s band "Moody Blues" summed it up the best when describing colors in darkness,,which also makes day time half tone photos relevent..the lyrics from "days of future past".........
Cold hearted orb that rules the night, Removes the colours from our sight, Red is gray and yellow white, But we decide which is right. And which is an illusion?
Which is it? " The Moody Blues are not bayo collectors..but there point is on the mark with color..( and dropping a bit of acid doesnt help it much )
Without color,,I will leave the time period and type of rifle alone as would be the same for me with political dagger fittings. I will take you word for it............................but it sure looks like a dress bayo.. Good chat Regards to all Larry
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
- Larry C
One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
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Re: K98 Dress bayonet in combat?
Hello i believe we spoke about this bayonet some years ago, Fred is totally right, there is probably the barellring on the bayonet, same as when You multiplicied the lenght of handle, You will get a 30cm blade, so lenght has no dress bayonets.
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