Only manufacturer and marking
I think
Only manufacturer and marking
I think
No disrespect ..but I want to see what the bayo guys have to say and not base any findings on assumptions.
We have all seen what Police bayonets ook like and this will be a learning curve for myself and others ..if this plain type bayo is a police type.
My eyes are open to read further commnets.
Regards Larry
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What makes this a police S84 / 98 are here - in this case - the missing WaA markings in combination with the police clearance mark on the back of the blade.
In this case, there is also a typical manufacturer's mark for official orders on the blade.
However, there are also S84 / 98, which were branched off from export orders with WaA. But even in these cases there is a police acceptance on the back of the blade. These bayonets are quite rare.
In general, there are only a few manufacturers who have supplied the police. Besides ACS / AWS, I also know Paul Weyersberg. Paul Weyersberg has the acceptance mark on the guard.
Here a comparable piece without a fake etching
Here is an early ACS police bayonet. There is still no eagle as an Abnhamemark but a police star burst with a letter. Interestingly, the wooden gruff shells here were professionally grooved like the Bakelite grips.
Here is a police bayonet from Paul Weyersberg. Only at Paul Weyersberg's factory was a serial number attached to the blade of government items.
Here is a somewhat rarer police Bayonet. It is an S84/98 which was branched off from an export order, here probably for Portugal. In addition to the WaA stamps, there is also a police inspection on the back of the blade.
Larry, Much scarcer (IMO) than the ones generally associated with the German Police, they also used the Behörden type S.84/98 service bayonets that are seen listed in period Police publications. With a different style TM than the German Army types, no dates, no factory serial numbers, the one here has been added. (Paul Weyersberg having factory numbers, and other markings exceptions.) The Police acceptance marking that is seen posted here on the thread starter back/spine of the blade (inverted in the posted image). The images from Sleepwalker covering the basic OEM variations. Best Regards, Fredby Larry C
Factory serial numbers for police bayonets were only available from P. Weyersberg.
That's correct, Weyersberg for some reason also is known for some as yet unexplained variations with some service S.84/98 bayonets. Best Regards, Fred
The Police acceptance mark on blade spine was the obvious clue as was the maker Coppel and use of the scales logo, all seen with Police contracts. Which is all the more infuriating as it is a collectable bayonet over more common versions for Heer. But the vandal clearly understood it was a Police combat bayonet hence the etching. A novice collector could fall for it.
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