Information on Ahnenpass

[Willmore]

Hi there.

First page -

Name: Kurt von Hagen

Beruf (Profession): Oberreichsbahnrat

Ort (Location): Köln (Cologne)

I am not sure what a Oberreichsbahnrat is, but I think it has something to do with being a high ranking professional Civil servant/bureaucrat/administrator for the German Railways.


Page 8 (1) -

Geburtsname (Birth name): von Hagen

Vorname (First name): Hans Diedrich Kurt

geboren am (born on): 17.3.1892

in: Iserlohn

als kind des 2 (as a child of 2): von Hagen Diedrich (Father)

und der 3 (and the 3): Söding Anne (Mother)

Bekenntnis (Confession): evang = evangelisch (Protestant)

Beurk. b. Standesamt (certification at registry office): Iserlohn

Geb. Reg. Nr: 19 (Birth Reg. No: 209)


Iserlohn is a city in the Märkischer Kreis district, in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany.

Iserlohn - Wikipedia



Page 9 - (2) Vater von 1 (Father of 1)

Famillienname (Family name): von Hagen

Vorname (First name): Johann Diedrich

geboren am (born on): 25.11.1860

in: Iserlohn

als Sohn des 4 (as the son of 4): Johann Diedrich von Hagen (on page 6)

und der 5 (and the 5): Wilhelmine Wienbranck (on page 6)

Bekenntnis (Confession): evang = evangelisch (Protestant)

Tauftag (Christening day): 6.1.1861

Beurk. b. Standesamt (certification at registry office): /

Geb. Reg. Nr: (Birth Reg. No): /

b. Pfarramt (at vicarage): Iserlohn



Page 9 - (2/3) (Parents marriage details)

Die Eheschilßung des (The marriage of) von Hagen Diedrich (Father)

Beruf (Profession): Dr Phil = Doktor Philosophie? Maybe a Dr of Philosophy?

Bekenntnis (Confession): evang = evangelisch (Protestant)

und der (and the): Anna Julie (Mother)

geborene (born): Söding

Bekenntnis (Confession): ???

erfolgte am (took place on): 21.3.1891 in

in: Iserlohn

Beurk. b. Standesamt (certification at registry office): Iserlohn

Reg. Nr: 3 (Reg. No: 4315)



Page 9 - (3) - Mutter von 1 (Mother of 1)

Geburtsname (Birth name): Söding

Vorname (First name): Julie Anne

geboren am (born on): 10.5.1862

in: Iserlohn

als tochter des 6 (as daughter of 6): Söding Johann Kaspar

und der 7 (and the 7): Viehoff Julie Ida Arnoldine (on page 7)

Bekenntnis (Confession): ???

Tauftag (Christening day): 1.6.1862

Beurk. b. Standesamt (certification at registry office): /

Geb. Reg. Nr: / (Birth Reg. No: /)

b. Pferramt (at Vicorage): Iserlohn

Tauf Reg Nr (Christening Reg number): 55

[Willmore]

I did find the below information about ranks and job titles -

Ranks and insignia of the Reichsbahn - Wikipedia

Reichsbahn Oberrat, office director of the main administration
Dienstrange der Deutschen Reichsbahn – Wikipedia

Post #3 -

The German public service divides the personnel of the Beamten-class in careers according to their education:
einfacher Dienst - basic career - school degree / short course
mittlerer Dienst - intermediate career - journeyman degree / 2-3 year long course
gehobener Dienst - elevated career - polytechnic or bachelor degree
höherer Dienst - higher career - academic degree

Each of these "careers" has several ranks/steps of seniority. The precise name of the ranks depends on the service, but often its like (with prefixes for the service like Zoll-, Post-, Studien- etc):
--- einfacher Dienst ---
Amtsgehilfe, Oberamtsgehilfe, Hauptamtsgehilfe
Amtsmeister, Oberamtsmeister
Assistent, Oberassistent
--- mittlerer Dienst ---
Sekretär, Obersekretär, Hauptsekretär
Amtsinspektor
--- gehobener Dienst ---
Inspektor, Oberinspektor
Amtmann, Amtsrat, Oberamtsrat
--- höherer Dienst ---
Rat, Oberrat
Direktor, Leitender Direktor

Ranks of Reichsbahn/Zoll? - Axis History Forum

Kind regards,

Will.

[kc918]

Thank you so much! He was office director of the main administration so he must be famous, hopefully I could find a picture of him.

I have some more questions if you wouldn't mind help me as well.

1) I'm wondering about his full name was it Hans Diedrich Kurt von Hagen or Kurt Hans Diedrich von Hagen or just Kurt von Hagen?

2) He lived in Cologne but was born in Iserlohn?

Regards

[Willmore]

My pleasure kc.

I have had a look on Ancestry but can't find any information about Kurt unfortunately.

1) His full name is Hans Diedrich Kurt von Hagen, but he was known as Kurt. You can see on page 8 that the name Kurt is underlined and that tells us that this was the name he used. You can see other examples on page 9, section 2 and 3 where the same can be seen for his parents.

2) That is right. He was living in Cologne when the document was filled out, but he was born in Iserlohn.

Kind regards,

Will.

[kc918]

Thank you again Will for the information.

[Kilian]

Is it possible that the profession (Beruf) of Mathilde Lehnhoff in the opening post is o.B rather than o.K? That could be short for “ohne Beruf”, without profession. That would fit her age.