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Article about: Hi Guys, I might bid on an auction. What is your opinion on this SS Dagger? I think it looks legit. Description The blade shows the etched motto "Meine Ehre heißt Treue". RZM &quo

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    Hi Guys,

    I might bid on an auction. What is your opinion on this SS Dagger? I think it looks legit. Description

    The blade shows the etched motto "Meine Ehre heißt Treue". RZM "M7/37" and "1051/39/SS" maker marked. Light stains on both sides.

    Black wooden handle with inlaid SS roundel and eagle (aluminum). It has a fine stress crack on the front but not chipping. Nickel-plated fittings. Original black-painted steel scabbard with nickel-plated fittings (magnetic). All screws are in place. The scabbard has no dents.

    Comes with the original 3-piece black leather hanger. "A" (Assmann) and RZM "M5/8" maker marked as well as "DRGM" marked on the snap clip. It works fully.

    Overall condition 2+. A nice dagger!

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    Hello again. This dagger has a chance of being correct. I think the blade is correct, the grip eagle as well, has a good grip fit to the crossguard and a good fit to the scabbard.
    I think the scabbard has some kind of interference. Wait for more opinions on grip and scabbard.
    Georgi.

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    What is the marking on the back of the belt loop?

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    Quote by texasuberalles View Post
    What is the marking on the back of the belt loop?
    Nothing that I would want on any of my belt loops.
    Its supposed to be SS Runes in a diamond..but the question is where is the RZM control number ?
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

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    Larry,

    Check page 603 of TW's SS book. Top left photo.

    He says "This original type of rigging should be considered very rare". Here is a photo of that same loop. I bought it from Tom.

    Dave


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    Thanks Dave,,I am reading that 1 page rarity in Toms book....what are your thoughts on the OPS total rig ?

    The dagger and fit itself looks correct.

    Regards Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

    “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill

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    I think it looks good and the hanger is an extra. Bid on it.

    If you win and the hanger is for sale, let me know !

    dave@germandaggers.com

    Dave

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    i dont like the diamond with the SS runes, i have seen those on HJ backpacks with M7 markings in front of the diamond.
    And a metal code on a leather backside strap can only be explaned by foolish lack of knowledge: just stamp it on it, looks good, the more the better!
    The backpacks themselves were period.
    this diamond SS stamp is imo post war, a bit of an upgrade so to say.
    Its also easy to see that the strap itself got more upgrades, the button of the gripstrap was painted black, and i think the strap and beltloop were dyed black.
    Its also shown on the inside of the leather, all is black

    I dont care in this case what has been written in Tom's book, as all together, it could well been guessing for him too
    I liked Tom a lot, and he had a lot of knownledge, but a lot thats been written in the days have been proofed false along the internet years.

    That hanger for sure would not be one for my collection

    And i do not believe all thats written on paper is carved in stone

    Ger

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    Quote by Larry C View Post
    Nothing that I would want on any of my belt loops.
    Its supposed to be SS Runes in a diamond..but the question is where is the RZM control number ?
    +1
    Last edited by gerrit; 09-26-2023 at 10:48 AM.

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    I would agree with Ger re the bogus stamp.

    Cheers, Ade.
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