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SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

Article about: Hello all, Posting this potentially very nice piece by Robert Klaas, Solingen in great condition, for comments, opinions etc. I would also appreciate clarification on the Roman numeral 'II'

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    Default SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

    Hello all,

    Posting this potentially very nice piece by Robert Klaas, Solingen in great condition, for comments, opinions etc. I would also appreciate clarification on the Roman numeral 'II' marked to the rear of the lower cross-guard - am I right in assuming this is in reference to one of the three regiments of the SS-VT? Or is it just a number referencing the Gau/region like on the SA dagger?

    Thanks in advance for your time!

    Edit: It certainly looks almost identical to this piece, though in a bit better condition: 1933 pattern Robert Klaas SS Dienstdolch for review

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

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    Thanks Adrian; I was just browsing some old forum threads in that regard as you posted - after creating the thread, of course... silly me.

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    Lovely piece. I also have one and love it. Here it is on my website:

    SS Dagger
    "It's not whether you get knocked down...It's whether you get up"



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    Quote by Rossi View Post
    Lovely piece. I also have one and love it. Here it is on my website:

    SS Dagger
    Thanks - beautiful example! Though I notice the runes on the top button are a little different; normal variation I presume?

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

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    Quote by Fiore View Post
    Thanks - beautiful example! Though I notice the runes on the top button are a little different; normal variation I presume?

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean
    Boker SS Daggers also used the first type seen on Fiores dagger...and also used the 2nd type seen on Kirks dagger ....a generic type runes button.
    We see this sometimes on some SS dagger producers.
    Nothing wrong with it an both daggers are correct.

    Regards Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

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    Lovely Klaas SS dagger, i once owned his twinbrother
    A great asset to any collection!

    Ger

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    Great looking dagger … I once had a Klaas many many years ago.

    Should of kept it but as usual you think something better is worth trading it in for!

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    Very nice dagger, Fiore, and congrats! The II on the lower cross guard is the district mark meaning it was made in Dresden. My Klaas is marked I meaning Munich [sideways like yours] and our runes buttons are the same, but as Larry said there was often a variance.SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very cleanSS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean

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    Quote by vibmon View Post
    Very nice dagger, Fiore, and congrats! The II on the lower cross guard is the district mark meaning it was made in Dresden. My Klaas is marked I meaning Munich [sideways like yours] and our runes buttons are the same, but as Larry said there was often a variance.
    SS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very cleanSS Dienstdolch by Robert Klaas Solingen, 'II' marked - very clean
    Well this is in fact not correct, as these daggers daggers above were made by Klaas in Solingen

    Ade has a sticky on top about district controle markings, and i quote:

    SS 1933 pattern Dienstdolch distribution markings & Early producers
    These can be found on the reverse side of the lower crossguard of the SS Dienstdolch and comprise of a small die struck marking of either a Roman numeral, I, II or III.

    SS daggers inspected and then were sent to to the various SS districts throughout Germany from three main distributions centers.

    I = München.

    II = Dresden

    III = Berlin.

    cheers
    Ger

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