Type II chained SS dagger

**Kiwi74** · 07-30-2021, 08:24 AM

Hi all,

I hope that everybody is going well. This may potentially be my first SS dagger and I was wondering whether I could please have some opinions on it before doing anything else. This is coming from a reputable source, but I am still very much in a learning process with these blades (I have somewhat tried looking on the forums and on dealer websites for comparisons), so would really appreciate some thoughts. I am not sure if this is a typical Type II chain by the looks (ie- square ended cut outs linking the chains, it has a DRGM stamp, the top of the clover leaf is cut out and there is a two screw assembly on the lip of the scabbard?). Thank you for your opinions

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 07-30-2021 08:24 AM

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**Kiwi74** · 07-30-2021, 08:29 AM

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**Kiwi74** · 07-30-2021, 02:02 PM

SS stamping to the rear of the chain

**Larry C** · 07-30-2021, 02:56 PM

Hello Kiwi..have you tried " This " forums internal search engine ? It is indisputable more so than what you can find on other open search engines outside this website ...because this kind of content is all Here !

. I would encourage a deeper study which will only strengthen your knowledge.
We dont mind to help out here as that is why we are here.

The dagger shown is a late production period Type I chain and not a Type II
Chained SS Study of the 4 Chain types

So if thats what the dealer told you that info is wrong.
It is deemed a late production period Type C having Nickel plating over a steel base.
You should give a read through the link I posted above and will explain further.

Overall I see no glaring issues with this dagger as it appears all correct in every detail expected to be seen on a Type I / Type C
Other comments and opinions welcome.

Regards Larry

**Frogprince** · 07-30-2021, 07:14 PM

IMO most definitely a candidate for a trip outside for a look in daylight, I'm not really liking everything that I'm seeing in the images (and I would also like some good closeup images of the scabbard's center mount). Best Regards, Fred

**Frogprince** · 07-30-2021, 09:52 PM

With no additional images, and I had to make an immediate judgement with those currently posted: It is that this looks like it could be one of the so-called "East Bloc" fakes. Best Regards, Fred

**Kiwi74** · 07-31-2021, 12:26 AM

Do you think it is the shape of the nasal cavity within the skulls? The shape of the jaw too?

**Kiwi74** · 07-31-2021, 12:29 AM

More photos of the centre piece on the scabbard

**Frogprince** · 07-31-2021, 02:24 AM

by Kiwi74

Do you think it is the shape of the nasal cavity within the skulls? The shape of the jaw too?

The center mount on the scabbard is also bad, and as you have surmised it's a combination of small details that includes the nasal openings etc. etc. The new images reinforcing my impression of a so-called "East Bloc" fake (not all are equal) which have been known to cause problems even for some supposed specialists (a general comment with no specific reference to this forum). Best Regards, Fred

**Kiwi74** · 07-31-2021, 02:42 AM

Hmm the maxilla (portion above the front teeth and below the nasal cavity) and zygomatic bone (corners of bone below the eyes) also look to be unequal across the three the more I look at them. Thank you for mentioning this (on the other forum too) and @Larry C thank you too for providing me with that link and your opinion. I would just like to wait for a few more to confirm before I send an email back to the dealer on what I will do