Help Please - SS sleeve eagles? Italian SS & German Real or Repro??

**Kilroy Was Here** · 07-18-2011, 08:03 PM

Hi guys.... what are the opinions of these two pieces...could they be real??
First one is described as breast eagle and "The Eagle is Made with Silver Bullion Flat Wire" I think it is a sleeve eagle, not a breast eagle.....
It has some damage, but does not bother me as the price is fairly inexpensive compared to others I've seen

The second is Italian type SS 29th Div. sleeve eagle

They both look pretty good to me, a novice about these type items, but would appreciate some experts opinions....

Thanks in advance for any opinions and info.

Regards, Steve

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 07-18-2011 08:03 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Adrian Stevenson** · 07-18-2011, 08:17 PM

Hi Steve, both are old fakes which have been around at least 30 years now.

Note the fat body to the wire eagle. Nick named the "Bowling Pin fake"

The Italian pattern has a totally incorrect weave to the back. Also found in red.

Cheers, Ade.

**Kilroy Was Here** · 07-18-2011, 08:26 PM

Hi Ade, how you doing these days? I hope well. Thanks for the prompt info on these. They could have fooled me, but like said...I'm no expert on them. I do have an SS buckle that is a relic though, and know it's legit for sure as have showed it here before. I've learned here the Golden rule is stay away from SS items unless they are shown to the experts first. Thanks again

Regards, Steve

**Kilroy Was Here** · 07-18-2011, 08:37 PM

How about this one Ade......fake also??

**carlsson1982** · 07-18-2011, 08:38 PM

Yes,also.

**Kilroy Was Here** · 07-18-2011, 08:44 PM

by carlsson1982

Yes,also.

Thanks carlsson, great, thanks for helping me save what little money I have these days.

**Killroy** · 07-21-2011, 01:10 PM

These along with so many SS items nowadays have pretty good looking fakes. I have to say not all that long ago these would have fooled me too. They are for sure bad though.

Jeff