I Found the Holy Grail ..................

[Aldo]

Wow Robin, nice concise history. Thanks for posting

[Robin Lumsden]

Wow Robin, nice concise history. Thanks for posting

Thanks, Al.

Here it is again, this time with the relevant TK collar patches, M35 and M36.

[Robin Lumsden]

Another comparison photo showing the M35 TK collar patch being worn.

These pictures are not easy to find !

This one shows Hans Siegel, as a 'teenager' guard at the Sachsenburg camp, c. January 1936.

He went on to win the Knight's Cross in August, 1944 while serving with the 12th SS-Panzer Division 'Hitlerjugend'.

[Robin Lumsden]

Another rare photo of this type of early TK collar patch being worn.

This time by Gustav Sorge.

[Finngaill]

Really interesting thread Robin.

[Robin Lumsden]

I've had this M98/04 dress seitengewehr with SS bayonet knot for over 30 years.

The knot has a 1935-dated SS cloth label attached ................ 'RZM 2/35 SS'.

So it's nice to see a photo of an identical bayonet and knot being worn with M35 SS-TK collar tabs at Dachau during Himmler's visit in May 1936.

I think this 1935-pattern SS-TK collar tab and 1935-pattern knotted SS-TV bayonet must have 'found their way home' together.

[Robin Lumsden]

In 30 years, I've only ever found four photos showing the M35 SS bayonet knot being worn.

The interesting thing is ................. three of these four photos show the knot being worn by SS-Totenkopf men from a single SS-TV unit ............ 'Oberbayern' at Dachau !!

[Robin Lumsden]

I've just noticed a distinct similarity to this old SA-Regiment Muenchen leader's armband I've had lurking around for the last 30+ years ............

[Chopperman]

I think this 1935-pattern SS-TK collar tab and 1935-pattern knotted SS-TV bayonet must have 'found their way home' together.

I was going to reply with the age old saying "A match made in heaven" but given the time, place and subject matter, I decided against it.
I agree that they belong together and it's nice seeing gaps in collections being filled.

Congrats, Robin

[d'alquen]

The black and white bayonet knot for the Politische Bereitschaften was introduced mid-year 1934 and listed in the first 1934 SS price list. It was worn by both SS-TV and SS-VT men, (with the exception of the Leibstandarte who always wore an army pattern troddel). Quite why the man pictured above from SS-Oberabschnitt "Suedwest" was wearing a bayonet with the knot is intriguing as his official sidearm would have been a service dagger.