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Need Help! Opinions Please for Allgemeine SS Tunic

Article about: I saw this tunic at auction and would like to know if I missed a good item or dodged a bullet. It is represented as authentic with questionable insignia. The stamps indicate a MosFilm proven

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    I saw this tunic at auction and would like to know if I missed a good item or dodged a bullet. It is represented as authentic with questionable insignia (shirt, tie, pin & belt not included). The stamps indicate a MosFilm history. With premium, the realized price was around $3,300. Any and all opinions/comments are encouraged and appreciated regarding the pros and cons of this tunic. Thanks very much!
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    Last edited by Karl Wolff; 02-22-2021 at 06:35 PM.

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    In my opinion you dodged a bullet! I'd say both tunic and insignia are fake...

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    Thanks for the comment! Why do you not like the tunic itself?

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    I don't like the textile used for either the outer shell or lining. And why a label that has not been filled out on a tunic that was specifically tailored and ostensibly worn?

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    I agree that the empty tailor's label is odd. So, you think fake MosFilm stamps were applied to deceive and promote some second-hand pedigree?

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    That's precisely what I think has been done. It is well known among collectors that many black SS tunics were recovered from this source, so the stamps have been placed there to deceive!

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    Again, thanks for your input. What is the consensus regarding the fluoresce/black light test? Is it now meaningless in vetting pre-45 clothing?

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    It's strange that such effort would go into creating fake MosFilm stamps, yet a convincing tailor's label was ignored. As you said, this tunic was ostensibly worn - which the award loops suggest - so the label is a glaring omission!

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    The black light test is still very useful.

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    According to the auction house the tunic passes the back light test. Curious.

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