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07-09-2020 04:47 PM
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The paint inside that looks like regular apple green with the same showing through the missing areas of what looks like an overpaint. I don’t think the lighting in these photos is doing the helmet any favours. Not sure what going on with the liner as it looks like a 9 finger liner but the tongue to the left of the rear seam appear to be cut in half. 9 tongue liners were normally made for size 68 and above sized shells. Seems to fit so perhaps a wrong sized shell stamp - I’m sure it happened. Would like to see closeups of the remains of the Heer decal and photos of the other side of the helmet too. Looks like Heer decal may have been dug out. Wonder what’s happening on the other side..hmmm.
Based on these images it generally looks OK but I would want better high res images of the entire helmet preferably in daylight to see what’s going on with the paint and decals.
Andy
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Nine tongued liners were made for some size 66 helmets, (although it's just a sliver of a finger) so it looks fine to me.
I agree with Andy about the lighting not doing the helmet any favours - looks like it could be ok, but would ask for better pics, especially around the decal areas.
Difficult to tell when the repair to the chinstrap was done.
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And a close up of the decal areas.
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I have a factory install 8 1/2 tongue one In a size 66. It happens 
Z
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It all depends on how the leather is cut, having started making my own liners for reenacting it's pretty common that this occurs, I've seen even 9 tongue liners in 64's and 7 tongue liners in 64's, too (originals).
I also recently got some unused BW liners from eBay and all were stamped in a length of 69cm, so that in the factory they could make whatever size they needed out of it.
So depending on where you start and stop you can have more or less leather tongues in the liner, often if the tongue is too slim to fit a reinforcing ring and the hole for the draw string, it would be cut off straight away as it serves no purpose.
Anyway, enough rambling about leather.
Looks like an interesting helmet, as already said, the photos are less than optimal, could be a good one, though.
Luis
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It all depends on how the leather is cut, having started making my own liners for reenacting it's pretty common that this occurs, I've seen even 9 tongue liners in 64's and 7 tongue liners in 64's, too (originals).
I also recently got some unused BW liners from eBay and all were stamped in a length of 69cm, so that in the factory they could make whatever size they needed out of it.
So depending on where you start and stop you can have more or less leather tongues in the liner, often if the tongue is too slim to fit a reinforcing ring and the hole for the draw string, it would be cut off straight away as it serves no purpose.
Anyway, enough rambling about leather.
Looks like an interesting helmet, as already said, the photos are less than optimal, could be a good one, though.
Luis
Great. Now Luis is putting his knowledge into becoming the one of the most prolific "fakers" of our time. Beware of any 9 Liner Tongue Fakes coming out of Deutschland people
Z
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That’s why I used the word “normally”. Im sure there are lots of oddities out there but you’d think a smaller liner would fit into a bigger shell than larger liner into smaller shell. Perhaps done at the time the solder was being kitted out and just to ensure a snugger fit or running low on a particular size!? Yours is probably an example Zach? Trimmed at the time while fitting to an “in-between” sized head 
Andy
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I wonder Andy. Good question. Did they do that? ... kind of tailor to the soldier ?
Or perhaps when moving along on the production line ...they were getting to the end of the “roll” (?) of leather and just kind of threw in the extra because it was there and fit. Or For whatever reason the band or shell was an in between size as you say.
Andrea would def know. I’ll post mine up in am Zzzzz Time here.
Z
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