What (exactly) are these?

[Kyansp]

So, I've always been curious about the origins of these 2 steel helmets. Is the Kradmelder a replica? Maybe. Is the Polizei a post-war? Maybe.

I can always send more pictures if neccesary.


PS: The lotnumber and shell size are unreadable in the Kradmelder

Best regards,
Kyansp

[MAP]

The blue helmet appears to be a beaded M40. I can't tell you much more about it based on these photos. The paint is odd and it looks like it is missing the liner

I'll defer to the civil helmet guys for comment on the M34 style Police Helmet.

[Dean]

Usually the tabs under the helmet below the liner are indicative of a fireman's helmet but it's clearly police, so I'll go out on a limb and say it's probably a fire police variation
The other one is an M40 beaded luftschutz as said. Can you please show the inside of it? Thank you
Dean

[Schwerpunkt]

Do a detailed and seperate photoshoot of each helmet including decal close ups. These photos are no good.

[Dean]

Usually the tabs under the helmet below the liner are indicative of a fireman's helmet but it's clearly police, so I'll go out on a limb and say it's probably a fire police variation
The other one is an M40 beaded luftschutz as said. Can you please show the inside of it? Thank you
Dean

Btw I find it hard to believe that the first one is all original judging by the condition as well