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12-13-2011 02:11 AM
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Re: Lion Head Sword Real or Fake?
Hi Greg, I would be very concerned about the daisy design in the middle of the grip. I have never seen that before. Can you take better photos with it removed from the scabbard? Also a photo of the maker's mark. These usually go for $600 to $700. It's difficult to tell much from the photos you have posted, some more close ups would help.
Jay
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Re: Lion Head Sword Real or Fake?
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sitges1990
Hi Greg, I would be very concerned about the daisy design in the middle of the grip. I have never seen that before. Can you take better photos with it removed from the scabbard? Also a photo of the maker's mark. It's difficult to tell much from the photos you have posted, some more close ups would help.
Jay
I would agree with all of the above comments. I also do not like the band around the handle at the hilt.
Ralph.
Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)
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Re: Lion Head Sword Real or Fake?
I don't know if I would condemn this one without a better look. If there is no TM, I’m thinking that this might be an unmarked Voos - which created some out of the ordinary designs. When I get back to my primary computer I will see what I have on file. FP
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Re: Lion Head Sword Real or Fake?
hallo,guys,its a real one,Tm is Pack und Sohne,the rosette in the middle of the hilt is typical for that maker
regards
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Re: Lion Head Sword Real or Fake?
Hi Greg, can you read the maker's mark? Frog Prince knows far more than I do about these so I would wait till he can take a look at your new photos. IMHO, the details are soft and the sword has numerous details that I have not seen before on original examples.
Jay
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Re: Lion Head Sword Real or Fake?
The maker marks are a dancing girl with the words E Pack & Sohne Solingen. It took me forever to read it as it is almost completely covered up by the cross guard. I never saw anything marked like this before. Is this a rare maker or is it a fake? Thanks, Greg
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Re: Lion Head Sword Real or Fake?
Tom (Swordfish), who has been missing on the forums for a while is the Über-specialist for the lion heads. We had a private discussion regarding another sword the last time we were in contact, and he sent me some information that I still have not located regarding Voos and some other makers about some of the scarcer patterns. Possible subcontracting etc. etc.. The sword we were discussing had what resembled a Japanese chrysanthemum on the backstrap, and the seller thought there was a Japanese/German connection. (But in reality it was just artistic license.)
Not as good as a first hand examination, what the images appear to show is some of the detail work/hand finishing of a good quality early period sword. So no “alarm bells” here for me so far, and I will have to redouble my efforts to see if I still have the file.
PS: A “dancing girl” with a hammer over her head?? (A small joke, that's how the Pack logo might be described by somone who is not familair with it.) My best to all, FP
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Re: Lion Head Sword Real or Fake?
Looks fine to me too.
Cheers, Ade
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