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Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?

Article about: Hello, I need help to choose between two pair of technical parade shoulder boards. I would like to complete a uniform but I want to be sure that I use real wartime boards and not a 1946 mode

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    Hello,
    I need help to choose between two pair of technical parade shoulder boards. I would like to complete a uniform but I want to be sure that I use real wartime boards and not a 1946 model.
    I read that epaulets made with silk were true M43 type.
    This first pair is built with silk

    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?
    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?

    The reverse, classic:

    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?

    This second pair is more "metallic"

    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?
    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?

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    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?
    The reverse of the second pair

    It is very difficult to know if one pair (or both) are real M43.

    Thank you for your help. I have seen an old post about a similar type of shoulder boards but I need more advices.

    Best regards.

    GG

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    I'm assuming that you are attempting to complete an NKVD Frontier Troops service or parade uniform. Correct?

    Both pairs seem to be original M43 type - Technical. The star and tech embellishments seem OK. The tank ciphers may be OK also.

    99% of all NKVD M43 boards were six-sided from their inception until 1958. There were a few anomalies that deviated from regulation. IE - German made types made post-war for "reparation".

    Both types of lace (silk & metallic) were used throughout.
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    Quote by RichieC View Post
    I'm assuming that you are attempting to complete an NKVD Frontier Troops service or parade uniform. Correct?

    Both pairs seem to be original M43 type - Technical. The star and tech embellishments seem OK. The tank ciphers may be OK also.

    99% of all NKVD M43 boards were six-sided from their inception until 1958. There were a few anomalies that deviated from regulation. IE - German made types made post-war for "reparation".

    Both types of lace (silk & metallic) were used throughout.
    Hello Richie, thank you very much for your answer. My project is to complete a uniform of a border guard officer from engineer corps. I believe that metallic laces were supposed to be postwar. I am happy to see that both pair are good. I have to choose now
    Regards.
    GG

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    Your welcome GG.

    Metallic lace existed wartime also. There were a few different patterns that can tell between wartime and postwar.

    Choose them both. I'd be interested in either pair for one of my projects.

    Let me know via private message.

    Cheers,
    Richie
    Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam!


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    Hello Richie. I have sent you PM.

    Here are more pair of НКВД пв units :

    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?

    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?

    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?

    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?

    Wartime or postwar M43 shoulder boards?

    The last pair interested me because it is rare to find this type of shoulder boards for NKVD units. I Have seen parade models before ( NKVD security state and NKVD Border troops. But never a field model.

    Thank you for your help.

    GG

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    Stars and ciphers should be gold on the first two pair. The second pair sports German made (for reparation) field buttons. Whilst not the norm, I suppose they were acceptable on a gymnasterka worn "in service".

    Also, on the pair of non-combatant field boards, I'm not fond of the edgings. Too thick. However, that's my opinion and I would personally yield on purchasing them.
    Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam!


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    I think branch insignia on the straps is postwar added, better to replace with technical automotive insignia in gold
    Regards,
    Dimas

    my Skype: warrelics

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    Thank you Richie and Dimas. I appreciate your expertise.
    Richie, it is difficult to be sure but if I compare with this an other pair (similar but junior officer) I agree with your analysis. I Will make pictures later at home.

    regards

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