Summer Quiz 2024 #2:

[Jack59]

Hi everyone,
this Quiz is related to the iconic US M1helmet's influence post-WW2.
The M1 was bought, produced under licence, copied, modified & adapted by many countries. The shape of the shell was generally kept.
Try your best to identify the country of usage of each helmet.
The liners matches the shells location.
Tip: details, details!
Have fun!
Match the helmet with the model letter you believe is the good one.
Example: 1X, 2Y, 3Z...





Same liners, different angle of view.


A- West Germany M1A1 modifiziert für Bodentruppen (Modified for Ground Troops)
B- USA M1 with fixed bales (pre1943)
C- USA/Canada M1 (last chinstrap model 1975)
D- Japan M66
E- West Germany M1A1
F- USA Helmet Parachutiste M1
G- Spain M1 Marines
H- France M51 OTAN
I- Israel M1
J- Austria M75
K- West Germany M1A1 LL Luftlandeltruppe (air land troops- airborne)
L- South Africa M63
M- Spain M65
N- USA M1, with post-1964 liner.

Give it a shot, I'll identify the helmet's in a few days.
Jack

[Larry C]

I have no experience with these helmet types...but I applaud you creating this quiz...and surely it will get many replies from the type collectors

Regards Larry

[Greg Pickersgill]

1 - L ; 2 - I ; 3 - G ; 4 - M ; 5 - A ; 6 - N ; 7 - D ;

8 - K ; 9 - E ; 10 - B ; 11 - F ; 12 - J ; 13 - C ; 14 - H .

The ones I got wrong are because of scrolling up and down so damned much! That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. Either that or I'm starting to forget everything I once knew (not impossible...). Interesting quiz, but I'm temped to say that 14 questions arranged in this was a few too many.

[Jack59]

Greg, you did pretty good trough that helmet maze except for two! 12 out of 14 is very good. I can understand your mistakes but cannot reveal them for now. Thanks to have participated.
Jack

[JesperS]

This one is harder - also since there are a few of those I don't have in my collection. Let's give it a shot:

A-5
B-10
C-6
D-7
E-9
F-11
G-3 (guessing - Liner suspension reminds me of M42-79
H-14
I-1 (guessing - I don't have one of those so could be Israeli)
J-12
K-8
L-13 (guessing)
M-4
N-2

/Jesper

[Jack59]

From Jesper:

This one is harder - also since there are a few of those I don't have in my collection. Let's give it a shot:

Hi Jesper, thanks to give a try to the Quiz, yes it's not an easy one. Psst!.. you have forgotten helmet 13. No problem, simply edit your post & if ever you have to switch with another helmet name go ahead, if ever...

2 MORE DAYS TO GO...
On Friday I'll reveal who's who, so 2 more days to go until then, give it a try.
Do your best & have fun, or try to!

Jack

[JesperS]

From Jesper:


Hi Jesper, thanks to give a try to the Quiz, yes it's not an easy one. Psst!.. you have forgotten helmet 13. No problem, simply edit your post & if ever you have to switch with another helmet name go ahead, if ever...

2 MORE DAYS TO GO...
On Friday I'll reveal who's who, so 2 more days to go until then, give it a try.
Do your best & have fun, or try to!

Jack

That didn't make it easier ... But I cheated and had a look at my Spanish M65

[James C]

Evening Jack hope all is well ,great quiz but boy did it make the old grey matter work ,i suppose it is good for staving off dementia a little longer if nothing else ,this was my best shot at it
1 - L /2 - I / 3 - M / 4 - G/ 5 - A / 6 - C /7 - D/ 8 - K / 9 - E /10 - B / 11 - F / 12 - J / 13 - N / 14 - H

[Jack59]

Time to see who's who! Thanks to Greg, Jesper & James who did the Quiz & got a free headache in the process!
I must admit that it wasn't easy. The M1 helmet is collected by many, the M1 clones can end up being a big collection, mixing both for a Quiz was challenging, we only scratched the tip of the iceberg! Almost 50 members & many guests visited the thread, a few tried to identify the helmets by themselves for the fun of it. Thanks to all of you who took a look also.

While identifying each helmet seen in the Quiz I will ad a little information & the weight of each helmet seen here (surprising).



Helmet #1: L- South Africa M63. The South African M63 is a licensed French M51 OTAN export version copy. Difficult to tell the difference between both.(1493gr / 3.3 pound).

Helmet #2: I- Israel M1. This Israeli M1 has a modified US M1 shell, note the 2 chinstrap bales moved forward & the extra one added to the back improving the helmet's stability. The chinstrap is copied from the WW2 British para helmet. (1534gr /3.38 pound).


Helmet #3: G- Spain M1 Marines. This Spanish Marines M1 shell is from WW2, the chinstrap is a typical Spanish configuration. The liner seems to be an early West German M56 model modified for a Spanish chinstrap. (1372gr / 3.02 pound).


Typical Spanish leather cradle.




Helmet #4: M- Spain M65. The Spanish M65, is a M1 copy, the heavier from these 14 helmets. (1589gr /3.5 pound).


Helmet #5: A-West Germany M1A1 modifiziert für Bodentruppen (Modified for Ground Troops).
Seen here the Quiz 3 West German helmets for comparaison.
Top: M1A1 LL helmet, note the similarity of the chinstrap with the WW2 German para helmet ones.
Middle: West Germany M1A1 modifiziert für Bodentruppen (Modified for Ground Troops). New liner & chinstrap adopted in the 80s.
Bottom: M1A1 with I60 liner.


Helmet #6: C-USA/Canada M1 (last chinstrap model 1975). Canada used the US M1 model. The Canadian soldiers method to identify their belongings was to write their name & social insurance number last 3 digits. Note the last M1's chinstrap version (1975). (1551gr /3.42 pound).


Helmet #7: D- Japan M66. Japan's M1 version, the lightest from these 14 helmets. (1217gr / 2.68 pound).


Helmet #8: K- West Germany M1A1 LL Luftlandeltruppe (air land troops- airborne). (1558gr / 3.43 pound).

Helmet #9: E- West Germany M1A1. The shell is similar to the M1, smaller in size with an improved metallic alloy meaning that the helmet is still heavy for its size. (1289gr / 2.84 pound).

Helmet #10: B- USA M1 with fixed bales (pre1943). (1394gr / 3.07 pound)

Helmet #11: F- USA Helmet Parachutiste M1. Note the neck protection pad. (1551gr / 3.42 pound).




Helmet #12: J- Austria M75 (left). The Austrian 1975 modernised helmet's liner was similar to the German Bundeswehr M1A1 FJ60 liner. (1551gr / 3.42 pound).


Helmet #13: N- USA M1, with post-1964 liner. Note the new model of liner adopted in 1964. (1389gr / 3.06 pound).
Seen here for comparaison.
Top: M1 with last model of chinstrap (1975).
Middle: M1 with 1964 liner model.
Bottom: M1 with fixed bales.


Helmet #14: H- France M51 OTAN. The shell has a more rounded contour & a slightly flared brim. (1520gr / 3.35 pound).
Comparaison between the M51 OTAN & the M1.

[Greg Pickersgill]

Hah, not so bad then, I only got two US-made M1s confused, which I don't mind as I have not really collected/handled them much at all. If I'd got a Spanish M65 confused with an Austrian M75 I'd have been mortified.

Good quiz, but perhaps not quite so many elements next time, yeah? Mind you there are a few more M1 clones you could do yet!