Fake right?

[badger51]

Almost embarrassed to ask but this is a fake correct?Attachment 1033020Attachment 1033019Attachment 1033018Attachment 1033017Attachment 1033020Attachment 1033019Attachment 1033018Attachment 1033017

[CBH]

I won't comment on the hat but the TK looks like a late war tabbed example with late war eagle . These were sometimes used on fake hats but also originals of course . Hopefully Friedrich or Stonemint can help you with this one . Good luck .

[ErWeSa]

That's a tough one (at least for me). Looks very convincing, there are original late war caps that look just like this one. Looking forward to reading the specialists' verdict. With my limited knowledge and the pictures available I'd give it chance. More photos, particularly from the inside and from under the sweatband are needed (even for the specialists I think) for a final opinion.

While waiting have a look here: SS visor cap real? Help please

[Friedrich-Berthold]

One of our members gave this item the thumbs down.

Alteste Berliner Fakes

The last gasp grey SS cap was a pretty flimsy item, but the way to tell is to have it in hand and compare with the real thing.

The Assmann last ditch Totenschaedel is widely found on post war fakes, but it is, to my mind, a real badge.

The textile is also essential here, but in the 1950s and 1960s, authentic field grey textiles endured.

It is a goat rope, to use a US Army term, and I have included a lot of real images.

In the Norwegian book there are some very clear images of a very cheaply made, but very authentic grey SS peaked cap that was found in ebay
and bought by a Scandinavian chap and is memorialzied in the book in some great detail.

[Friedrich-Berthold]

Since my friend Wolfgang, whom I greet and wish einen guten Rutsch ins Jahr 2017, included some of my junk, here is some more of my junk for what little it is worth.
Certain of these caps get wrongly damned because they are so widely faked, and the real ones are so few.

[Friedrich-Berthold]

The criterion for me is the field grey trikotage, which the fakes never get right.

[Friedrich-Berthold]

If you look in the 1942 price list, these were no longer for sale.

In any case, there are several for sale across the cosmos, some of the very cheapo model.

I have included a cross section of these from the middle 1930s til the middle of the war......I think.

[Friedrich-Berthold]

Here is an example, though it has the more standard grey interior, but there you are....

http://www.virtualgrenadier.com/sale_item.php?iid=4411

Here is another of somewhat earlier make.

The Collector's Guild

[Friedrich-Berthold]

This was offered to me at about 200% market price, and I passed....it is a Kupper of early mid war.....

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It has rayon piping, which appeared at a given point.

[Friedrich-Berthold]

The classic Atwood fake of the 1960s (left) generally has a lousy Trikotage of flimsy quality and not the right color. There are many colors of field grey,
and the real caps are of the wartime field grey, of sufficient quality. The classic stinker is too blue in its field grey, whereas the wartime fieldgrey
is more brown, or, whatever, but minus the classic blue hue of pre war field grey.....

Don't ask me to generalize more.

And there are hundreds and hundreds of chopped up caps made into SS caps and so forth.

The same unending story that bores me out of my saggy, old mind.

I include the Norwegian picture (right), since I was witness to its emergence and restoration, and it is a flimsy, cheapo, but real cap.